Trans Reaction to the Women's March

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Www.storify.com/katanaoflogic/trans-activists-womens-March

The link is a big collection of how many trans activists responded to the women's March.

I must admit, I've had a good chuckle at some of these!

I know it varies from region-to-region in the UK in terms of where it lies on the affectionate to offensive scale, but I'm rather fond of fanny as a word for vulva and vagina.

Yeah, fanny's pretty inoffensive where I live. Among adults tho. Think it is a touch too slang, bordering on vulgar if kids use it. Like tits.

Fanny is good too, M0stly. Fanny is less sexual, at least that's how I perceive it. I've heard it used for a child's genitals by some families. I grew up in the West Country and I think you're right that nuances of meaning vary around the country.

It may be apocryphal, but I have heard that there was a 1920s play that included the line "Has the doctor seen her, Fanny?"

Fanny works, as far as I'm concerned

Fanny doesn't work if we want across-the-pond linguistic solidarity. It's not offensive at all, of course, but it means your bum, so men have fannies too.

Getting back to the OP, which I haven't actually commented on , it occurs to me that just reminding someone what the Women's March on Washington was about and then asking them to read the trans reaction is more than enough to initiate peak trans in even the most gullible of allies. The reactions are grotesque.

The entitlement and narcissism comes off these guys in waves. They loathe women. Rachel Dolezal really wanted to be African American. She may have been delusional but it meant everything to her. TRAs don't really want to be women. We're beneath them. They are turned on by pornified femininity but sisterhood with ordinary everyday women wearing everyday clothes has nothing to offer them. It's only truscum, the old school transsexuals, who hope to be accepted by women on women's terms and have the humility to know they can't demand this.

Ah, of course.

You'd need a gynaecologist for a fanny pack in the UK. We call them bum bags. One of the many entertaining differences in meaning across the Atlantic.

My favourite is suspenders. I remember reading a crime novel in which a bunch of Mafioso were plotting in a kitchen in their suspenders. To an American this conveys that they were in shirt sleeves. My mental picture was of a scene from the Rocky Horror Show

I actually despise the way TAs (trans activists, not teaching assistants talk about women.
"Tits" "pussy" etc
They reveal themselves to be no more than misogynist men. Cocks in frocks. Fuck off.

I prefer the term "cunt" to be honest. It's strong and it describes vagina, clitoris and vulva.

Yy prawn

The c-word is one of the most offensive words in the US. It's right up there with the n-word.

Now, it Trump had said cunt instead of pussy for what he liked to grab, that would have made for a very interesting march indeed. The networks would have had a field day trying to blur out the signs.

Isn't interesting how meaning varies across geography and communities? In my circles the word cunt is unremittingly negative. An ugly slur used by misogynists. I really hate it. If anyone uses it in my presence I look sternly at the offender and say sweetly "Cunt? What, you mean warm, soft and immensely popular?"

Now, you see, despite the inherent sexism in the word cunt, I sometimes find the thud it makes when delivered in exceptional circumstances, quite satisfying.

datun

Like when i said it in the pub on thursday

Quiet pub and (in our 40's) we were the youngest ones there

It came out louder than i expected it to

I agree re the word cunt. However I've in the past found it hard to explain to people who are used to it as a gender neutral insult that it can also be used by the worst kind of misogynistic man to dehumanise women.

In my defence i was talking about Trump

Quiet pub and (in our 40's) we were the youngest ones there

It's the same if you say it within hearing of the yoof. They think they invented all the edgy stuff like sex. A friend happened to comment on my Facebook status and used the word blowjob. The shock amongst the millennials that anyone over 40 could even utter it...

I don't have any problem with the word cunt. I quite like it. But it entirely depends on the context.

Agreed venus.

From the article linked.

"This rhetoric also ignores the fact that trans people are oppressed by their genitals, just as cis women are. From birth, trans people are coerced, sometimes violently, into living within society’s expectations based on the shape of the flesh between their legs. This coercion often comes with official government backing, such as the four states that don’t allow gender changes on birth certificatess, and the many many places that don’t require insurance companies to cover transition caree."

Oh just fuckity fuck off. Women are coerced,often violently into living within societies expectations based on the shape of the flesh between their legs. They are aborted in the womb, they are abandoned at birth, they have vital parts of their anatomy removed to control their reproductive capacity, they are forced into marriages, they are sold into sexual slavery, they are denied access to birth control or their access isn't covered by their health insurance. They are denied the right to safe abortion. They are denied autonomy in life and career choices because people seem to believe that their vaginas determine their intellect and abilities.

I'm sorry that you fetishise my oppression but sadly we women can't identify out of it so we need to talk about it in order to change it.

And I'd throw cunny into the mix. Although it does perhaps have a bit of a bad historical porn romantic novel.

Oh just fuckity fuck off.

I couldn't put it better myself.

Tartle

"I prefer the term "cunt" to be honest. It's strong and it describes vagina, clitoris and vulva."

Does it really? I have always thought of cunt as describing the vagina.

Shall I do a Mumsnet survey?