Transgender Documentary on BBC2 Thursday 2100 "Transgender Kids: Who Knows best?"

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Looks like an interesting watch, that does not just accept the trans children or they will kill themselves rhetoric. I just hope the BBC actually do show it and aren't bullied into not showing it.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b088kxbw

The blurb:

Around the world there has been a huge increase in the number of children being referred to gender clinics - boys saying they want to be girls and vice versa. Increasingly, parents are encouraged to adopt a 'gender affirmative' approach - fully supporting their children's change of identity. But is this approach right?

In this challenging documentary, BBC Two's award-winning This World strand travels to Canada, where one of the world's leading experts in childhood gender dysphoria (the condition where children are unhappy with their biological sex) lost his job for challenging the new orthodoxy that children know best. Speaking on TV for the first time since his clinic was closed, Dr Kenneth Zucker believes he is a victim of the politicisation of transgender issues. The film presents evidence that most children with gender dysphoria eventually overcome the feelings without transitioning and questions the science behind the idea that a boy could somehow be born with a 'female brain' or vice versa. It also features 'Lou' - who was born female and had a double mastectomy as part of transitioning to a man. She now says it is a decision that 'haunts' her and feels that her gender dysphoria should have been treated as a mental health issue.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was re-edited. The BBC are very much toeing the line on trans ideology.

Unfortunately we will have no way of knowing if they put it out as is or if they tinker with it to make it more trans compliant.

Hopefully it will be as interesting as it sounds.

I have no wish for anyone involved in it to be subject to trans harassment but if there is an outcry from TRAs then I hope it is a peak trans opportunity for lots of people.

Is it possible to re-edit it within such a short time frame? I imagined it would be pretty complex to edit a tv show, record the narrative etc? Maybe they've just updated the blurb in order to point out that they've not just spoken to Dr Zucker?

The BBC page lists the director as John Conroy, wondering if it is this person: www.johnconroy.co.uk/about/
"I am an award winning, BAFTA nominated self-shooting Producer/Director with extensive experience making documentaries in Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Canada, Colombia, India, Rwanda, Somalia, South Africa, the UK and the USA for broadcast television. Experienced in hostile environments and filming with advanced camera platforms."

His list of previous documentaries is pretty impressive.

I think it is a shame that Zucker is a focus for this documentary. The blurb asks good questions but I would be far more interested in a documentary exploring the impact on women and girls of the trans activist agenda, including the loss of women only spaces (inc sports, awards, roles on professional bodies which were reserved for women, etc) and the redefinition of 'woman' to include men when they demand it; the problems with collecting accurate data by sex if we have to refer to violence committed by men as 'violence by women' and male bodies as 'women's bodies' when those men demand to be called women; uncovering for a TV audience the reality and extent of trans identifying males harassment and violence against women and girls, including the many, many events and ways that feminist and women's orgs (and individuals) have been targetted, harassed and silenced by gangs of trans activists using threatening and dishonest campaigns against them.

I agree we do need a documentary like that. I would really like something with lots of lesbian input about the corrective nature of transgenderism and how it is erasing young lesbians.

Having said that, I googled Zucker and his, the clinics and the patients' story sounds like it really needs to be heard.

This is long but mighty interesting.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/02/fight-over-trans-kids-got-a-researcher-fired.html

Agree with needing to take a very thorough look on the impact on and targetting of lesbians, including the sexual harassment and coercion aimed at lesbians in the name of 'trans inclusivity' as well. The Zucker story is interesting but it also feels like another example of 'it only matters when it hurts a man'.

I'm sure it's only the blurb that has been edited - not the programme

I've been a day out all week this week. I went looking for this at 9pm and got cross because it wasn't on, thinking it had been pulled after all. Then I remembered that it wasn't Thursday....

I did exactly the same thing mortificados!

Except I was actually two days out because I was looking on I player for last nights's airing...
Meh, tues/thur both start with t so at least I got the first letter right

There was a piece on Newsnight tonight as a forerunner to this doc, that's worth watching. It was the last item, from 33.45

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b088k0mb/newsnight-11012017

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That was very interesting. Can't believe they had Ray Blanchard on - the transgender nemesis himself.

I'm wondering if the tide is turning. That transwomen didn't come across as very credible. It will be the first mainstream trans-critical program that I have ever seen if it does give opposing view points.

As there is no science to back up transgenderism, as the suicide statistics are manipulated, and as most children left alone will grow up not trans, the debate is overwhelmingly overdue.

And that poor child in the program seemed rather confused. No mention of gender dysphoria, simply not liking boys clothes and haircuts.

That transwomen didn't come across as very credible.

I wonder how the general public will react to transwomen like that, who present as women but are outspoken and argumentative in getting their point across? Doesn't go down very well when women do that...
I mean, it's almost as if sexist expectations could work in our favour on that score.
Not sure I put that very well... hope you know what I mean.

I laughed out loud at Ray Blanchar's comment on unquestioning acceptance from the media with the hasty tag-on "except the BBC."

Awaiting tonight with interest.

I wouldn't be surprised if Zucker sued Shon for slander / libel. The things Shon said about the naked photos and sexual questions are completely without evidence and I'd be very surprised if they weren't entirely lies purposefully created by transactivists.

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I was thinking the same thing. She reiterated it on her Twitter feed. And she says she's a lawyer. Although she also says she is a 'hot mess' and a sexual schemer. The whole thing gives me the rage. The contortions and the clap trap.

Transmedia watch are shitting themselves on Twitter about it.

Going to watch this tonight. Hoping it's the start of media coverage that will take a broader look at trans issues and children.

I wouldn't be surprised if Zucker sued Shon for slander / libel. The things Shon said about the naked photos and sexual questions are completely without evidence

I noticed that the presenter seemed to be pretty eager to close those comments down too - they were obviously slanderous, and I wonder if the BBC bears any legal responsibility for that.

I too thought Blanchard came across.much better than the other person. He seemed to be much calmer and have a good grasp of the data.

Of course, I'm sure TAs will believe the opposite. Very interesting to see the documentary tonight - I saw a.tweet from Sarah Ditum which I think said she had seen a preview of it, and that it touched on the abuse faced by those who dare challenge trans ideology.

I thought the Newsnight segment was very thoughtful and balanced (although I think Blanchard got less.time to speak?)

The BBC is quite well respected - hopeful this could be a bit of a turning point?

I'm sure nobody else will be surprised to learn that Susie Green of Mermaids is denouncing this documentary in the Guardian today...

Guardian article here

I read that guardian article and I'm almost sure it has been lifted verbatim from somewhere else.

I had really better leave my phone in another room while I watch this, as Twitter will go mad and I will have drunk wine...

I really really hope this documentary will have some effect. Not too optimistic though.

Tweets like 'who knows best about trans people? TRANS PEOPLE' last night suggest a neat dovetailing with having 'had enough of experts'.

And yet they want 'experts' to look at the documentary before it's aired!

This whole thing is making me so angry and frustrated and worried.