Trans media watch are lobbying mnhq

[BeyondTheHarpy]

I know this has already been mentioned in the PL thread, but I thought it might be an idea to bring it to the attention of mners in a thread of its own.

After the PL debacle, there followed a thread in AIBU about toilet. On which this post appeared...
"I'm with you OP and I'm horrified by the transphobia on Mumsnet. I have done some work with Transmedia Watch who are trying to persuade MNHQ to treat transphobia as they would treat any other hate crime. I don't know what MNHQ have against the trans community or why they don't challenge the widespread belief that trans women are rapists in frocks who want to see fannies."

So, yeah, just letting you know that they are (allegedly) on the case with mnhq.

I know Hermione Even though a MtF would, presumably, not waste and HCP's time the fact is time and money has already been spent sending the letter out in the first place.

As if the NHS isn't already in crisis without this, let alone the potentially skewed figures.

Should be interesting to see the future stats about how many 'women' are developing prostate cancer though.

hermione

I do not see why that is bonkers

I took it to mean that if the transwoman is registered as a female at the doctors surgery they will indeed get a smear letter as they are 'female' as far as the doctor is concerned

I may have misunderstood what you mean by bonkers though

Am on the transphobic/biology essentialist gynae ward, finally having my prolapses fixed :)
So I don't think I should comment on that info about smear test letters right now!! I'm half tempted to post pictures of my bloody to the knee compression socks!!

voodoo

I see what you mean but if people are allowed to 'change sex' on official forms then it cant be helped

You would like to think that a trans woman wouldnt just pop along anyway

beyond

I hated those fucking socks

beyond

I hope you are feeling well and on the road to recovery

(Should have said that first rather than making it all about me...again )

Rufus

It won't happen as long as the patient and GP have notified the authority sending the letters that they have changed gender. If they don't, however, then the letter will be sent as they will assume it is a bio female.

On the other side of the issue, if a FtM doesn't notify the GP/authority sending the letters about their gender change then they won't be invited for screening.

• If the FtM is registered as a male I meant to add

As usual, it seems like the ftm trans may being overlooked to their detriment? If mft registered as F are getting routine screening letters does that mean that an ftm who hasn't had surgery decided to register as M then they wouldn't get a screening letter? Can that currently happen?

Beyond ** hope you and your socks aren't too uncomfortable.

Yes errol

That is what i have just read

Hope surgery goes/went well and you recover swiftly beyond

VoodooPeople

Does that mean, despite the fact they may not go to the appointment (!), They will nonetheless be included in the figures of women who do not develop cervical cancer?

If you start adding more people to count, then the percentage of people with cervical cancer will go down? Or have I got that wrong?

Errol

Yes - if they are registered as male and haven't advised the GP/health authority that they have changed gender. On that basis they also won't be invited for breast screening either.

Datun

If they are registered as female and haven't advised the GP/HA of their change of gender then I suppose that might happen. They would certainly be included in the stats for women who did not choose to take up the screening. Whether that would affect overall funding I honestly don't know.

FFS.

And I'd guess that someone with GID would be likely to not volunteer for those tests.

There really do need to be separate stats for transgender. For example:

MtF's who develop prostate, testicular and penile cancers (assuming no SRS for the latter two)
MtF's who develop breast cancer (higher risk when taking HRT)
FtM's who develop cervical, ovarian, vulval, breast cancer etc. (again assuming no surgery)

Mtt will be counted in the 'DNA' stats then, I imagine (ironically...)

And if a certain % of women DNA, funding may be looked at critically, to see if it is a waste of money... so I'm not sure them not going is better tbh!

(Ps, I'm fine, just bleeding like a tap atm!)

Breast cancer (not sure about the others) is also at increased risk when on testosterone

beyond

Yes I did wonder if an increased number of DNA's would impact on funding. It certainly wouldn't surprise me.

The male cancers are not screened for due to the unreliability of the tests so there won't be any impact there. Cervical cancer funding will be the most likely to suffer. Deep joy.

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Light at the end of the tunnel maybe?
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rufus I think it's mad that you can change your sex on your medical records. Biology matters. Different dosages of meds, different heart attack symptoms and different reproductive parts that need screening for cancer (to name a few)

You can't actually change sex, you can form yourself into an approximation,of what society expects a man or woman to look like, but you'll still always actually be male or female, and that matters.

rufus I think it's mad that you can change your sex on your medical records. Biology matters. Different dosages of meds, different heart attack symptoms and different reproductive parts that need screening for cancer (to name a few)

Actually, I suspect that trans individuals pose health dilemmas all on their own. Medical science has reasonable understandings of how male and female bodies work and what they may be prone to ... but add to that cocktails of drugs that alter some endocrine functions and provide bodies with washes of drugs that are effectively unnatural and it's anyone's guess what the effects could be.