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General Trans Discussion Thread

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IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat · 22/10/2016 14:24

I seem to be hitting #PeakTrans on a daily basis now and thought it would be useful to have another general thread to discuss/post/share

If you haven't seen Magdalen Berns' recent blog post it's really worth a look

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StatisticallyChallenged · 04/11/2016 17:59

He doesn't pull any punches does he! Love that someone called him a transphobe too...

ArcheryAnnie · 04/11/2016 18:11

BenLinus someone like that is really walking the walk - dressing however the fuck they want without demanding that women accomodate them. Hats off.

WankingMonkey · 04/11/2016 18:19

Well here I am at this first meeting and from the very start it just came across as men in dresses feeling sorry for themselves and blaming biological women for everything. Then all of a sudden one Trans women lifted up her skirt to reveal his underwear. I was alarmed that someone would do that in a public place as it’s not the done thing and more importantly why on earth would you want to show off your dirty panties anyway?

Interesting insider view there...

Datun · 04/11/2016 18:24

BenLinusatemyhomework

Loved that link !!

BenLinusatemyhomework · 04/11/2016 19:50

I thought it was a very interesting dynamic that some transwomen feel free to sexually assault other transwomen.

Of course this is now women assaulting women. You can take the man out of sexual violence but you can't take the sexual violence out of the man.

Datun · 04/11/2016 20:07

Actually that's true ! I saw it more as defending, not participating.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 04/11/2016 20:51

There's a report on the man who attacked him here.

OlennasWimple · 04/11/2016 21:08

Love that link - this quote (from the second article down) should be printed in big letters and sent to all MTT TRAs

"Surely it is down to us to widen the bandwidth of being male and addressing the issues of masculine men who see us as weak, perverts and queer? These are the questions not being addressed by trans women and I feel they would have better lives for asking those questions and demanding that masculine men stop acting like dicks."

StatisticallyChallenged · 04/11/2016 21:26

In case any of you haven't seen it, there's a thread on Glamour magazines latest article, where a TW of 1 year tells women how to be feminists...

BenLinusatemyhomework · 04/11/2016 22:17

There is another excellent article on genderapostate.com called Colonizers vs Defectors which puts extremely articulately about why it really does need to be about widening the bandwidth of what it means to be male.

IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat · 05/11/2016 09:56

This is an excellent article on transgenderism from a gay man's perspective

youthtranscriticalprofessionals.org/2016/11/03/a-gay-man-writes-about-medicalized-childhood/

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ArcheryAnnie · 05/11/2016 13:03

IBelieve that is a good article, thanks for the link.

almondpudding · 05/11/2016 14:03

I'm not sure if this has been linked to on other threads...

Remembering that the brain is plastic and this is not some 'born this way' argument...

Paper on brain differences says...

  1. There are brain differences between FTMs and everyone else.
  2. There are brain differences between gynaeophilic FTMs and other FTMs, in line with Blanchard's claims about types of transsexuals.
  3. The brain differences (cortical thinning) greatly change during puberty, as puberty is a period of increased brain plasticity. Thus going through puberty can end dysphoric feelings.

Link: [http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-016-0768-5]]

HermioneWeasley · 05/11/2016 14:08

Placemarking

almondpudding · 05/11/2016 14:21

Try that link again...

link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-016-0768-5

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FlissMumsnet · 05/11/2016 19:50

Hi everyone, we've deleted a couple of posts as we didn't feel they were entirely relevant or helpful to the wider debate.

As you were Smile

DeviTheGaelet · 05/11/2016 20:14
Hmm
DeviTheGaelet · 05/11/2016 20:15

If I post the same link on a thread of its own, will it get deleted?

HermioneWeasley · 05/11/2016 22:22

This bellend is harassing a restaurant where he was asked to use the men's loos.

Mate, if you want people to believe you think you're a woman, you might try shaving 😂

General Trans Discussion Thread
DeviTheGaelet · 05/11/2016 22:36

Hermione I don't know if shaving will help. You are reducing men to their stubble!!

MrsJamin · 05/11/2016 22:38

That's a 5 o'clock shadow alright!

CondyLisa · 06/11/2016 06:45

He looks like Mr Slave out of South Park

IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat · 07/11/2016 15:23

More on the pronoun debate

The trans activist on here is completely batshit - suggesting that we record people's preferred pronouns on our phones. Who the fuck will have time for this shit? And don't fucking get complacent either as they can reserve the right to change the pronoun at any time. Grin

We will need to consult a database before we speak to anyone

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