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woman loses residency of son she was raising as daughter

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BombadierFritz · 21/10/2016 18:38

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3859618/You-caused-son-great-harm-insisting-raising-girl-Boy-seven-sent-live-father-mother-raised-daughter.html

hmmm. ok so its daily mail reporting but I am conflicted
perhaps good if child was being pushed into something he wasnt
but wtf with the boringly stereotypical insistance on the type of toys played with

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LoveMyPatio · 29/10/2016 16:38

Oh yes! You're right...

ElsaAintAsColdAsMe · 29/10/2016 16:38

I think it was a committee member who posted.

tubasinthemoonlight · 29/10/2016 16:46

I have asked ipost for the screenshot. My main worry is that whoever Hugh is thinks I am someone else as quite a few left Mermaids at that time. I#m not going to be silenced by them though.

HermioneWeasley · 29/10/2016 16:59

If they have access to that data as a result of their work for Mermaids then Hugh is in breach and arguably Mermiads are too because they've failed to keep sensitive data secure.

It also shows an exceptionally nasty side to a supposedly supportive charity

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 29/10/2016 17:04

This is appalling, Tubas. I'm glad people have screenshots to provide evidence of such behaviour by Mermaids. It's outrageous. It is not, however, altogether surprising as the charity's reputation is very poor already among those of us who take an interest.

I remember during the whole Spartacus thing, MNHQ posted that, among other things, they were concerned that parents of trans kids might find MN an unsympathetic environment.

It's ironic that the real danger to such parents appears to be from Mermaids, a charity that supposedly "helps" trans kids and their families, or at least it does so long as they toe the party line.

tubasinthemoonlight · 29/10/2016 17:05

Yes, if anyone was in any doubt as to whether to join or support Mermaids they now know that they must be very careful not to upset them as they and their families will suffer.

HermioneWeasley · 29/10/2016 17:15

MNHQ I assume that poster has been banned now for that behaviour?

Datun · 29/10/2016 17:17

I read it and it reflected badly on the poster. Menacing and ill conceived, it bore little relation to what tuba actually said.

Maybe it wasn't her they meant as perhaps they're having trouble keeping track of disillusioned ex-members?

To me tubas posts came across as sincere and concerned.

Hugh's post only served to underline it.

iPost · 29/10/2016 17:23

Love

Claimed to be a member.

IMO it conveyed the impression that somebody had an open file at their elbow. Or that a group of people with access to personal/medical information put together their recollections, with their own particular slant shining through.

If at some later date it comes to light that several well known Mermaids' names were involved in its production, I will not fall off my chair with shock.

Datun · 29/10/2016 17:28

If members were involved in that rant they need to enroll in Personal Relations 101 immediately.

What a shower.

tubasinthemoonlight · 29/10/2016 17:58

I have now read the screenshot. I believe it was posted by a committee member as there is information given which would not be known by someone not on the committee. I also believe I know who it is from the style of writing. I am not upset reading it but annoyed. Annoyed because a lot of it is not true. Also "Hugh" pointed out things I have said which they say contradict what happened in the past. I hope "Hugh" is reading this as I believe that they should understand that people change their views on things over time. Just because I did something years ago does not mean I now think it was advisable.

I freely admit that there are things I did that I would change or do differently if I could go back in time. Although I did benefit from being a member of Mermaids initially does not mean others fare so well and are not ill-advised.

I am still in touch with people from Mermaids who know what is going on there at the present time, so I know that things have not changed much from when I left two years ago. I left voluntarily because valid concerns were not taken seriously by the committee. I have not breached any confidentiality on Mumsnet or anywhere else.

HermioneWeasley · 29/10/2016 18:03

tubas I would contribute to a go fund me for you to sue their arses. Disgusting behaviour

FreshwaterSelkie · 29/10/2016 18:08

Oh my goodness Shock

I didn't see the post either, but that is low, coming here specifically to troll and out someone for having an opinion on their service. No reputable organisation, or anyone associated with one needs to do that. Shutting people down only ever makes it look like you've something to hide. Not cool.

kua · 29/10/2016 18:08

Glad you are ok Tuba.
If it wasn't clear my previous post re the data protection act was pointing out that Hugh was possibly committing a criminal act, not a refection on anything you have posted.

LoveMyPatio · 29/10/2016 18:14

Blimey! It sounds like how cults treat ex members!

Datun · 29/10/2016 18:23

Tuba Flowers

Felascloak · 29/10/2016 18:25

I'd heard about TRAs doxxing people, can't believe that's actually happened here! Data protection commissioner, now! Disgusting

PausingFlatly · 29/10/2016 18:59

tuba Flowers

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 29/10/2016 19:10

I am astonished an organisation like Mermaids where confidentiality should be REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT turns out to be willing to put confidential information on social media about members or ex members they disagree with. If anyone ever needed a reason not to touch them with a bargepole and make sure no school or other organisation they are involved with does, there it is right here.

tubasinthemoonlight · 29/10/2016 19:14

Thanks for the flowers folks and for the support. I don't think I have the stomach for pursuing their contravention of the Data Protection. Funny to think it was I who insisted they needed to register with the ICO when they thought it wasn't necessary. I actually believe several of them collaborated to post that message. It is correct that I was a friend of Susie Green and was grateful for the support of Mermaids when I joined. I was in the throes of just starting to support my child through this. There are things I did which I would change if I could go back and do it all over again. There is a difficulty when joining a group such as Mermaids in that you are vulnerable and are so relieved to meet others going through the same thing that you accept advice and support and feel as though it is "us against the world". At the time I raised concerns I was having a carrot of becoming a paid member of staff dangled in front of me as Mermaids were bidding for funding and intending to become a charity with paid staff. I was uncomfortable with that as I didn't see how people with no formal training or expertise other than supporting their own children should be paid or employed. Then, as "Hugh" said I wasn't thrown out. I left because Mermaids didn't seem to be a safe place anymore as concerns raised by several people were disregarded

HermioneWeasley · 29/10/2016 19:18

tubas you sound like someone with immense integrity. I'm sorry you've been treated so shoddily

APlaceOnTheCouch · 29/10/2016 19:24

Tubas Flowers I didn't read the post but I just wanted to say I'm appalled that they have breached both your and your DC's confidentiality in this way.

Xenophile · 29/10/2016 19:40

tuba, I am so proud of the stand you're taking. Being doxed in the way Mermaids tried to do today is designed to silence you. Thank you for not letting that happen.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 29/10/2016 20:13

This link leads to a letter of support for Mermaids with specific reference to the DM. Clicking on it asked for which Google account I wanted to open it-presumably just opening it doesn't mean I've just endorsed it?

Aimee Challenor ‏@GPEWAimee
The #standwithmermaids Open Letter is going strong. Please continue your support for @Mermaids_Gender sign here; docs.google.com/document/d/1EV

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LittlePaintBox · 29/10/2016 20:25

FlowersSo sorry you've been treated like this, tubas. I didn't see the post before it was taken down, but I'm appalled that an organisatio n dealing with such sensitive material would post it.