Ched Evans verdict

[FreshwaterSelkie]

to continue the discussion as the previous thread closed.

So a get out of jail free card costs £100,000, good to know... :-(

Pippa one witness denied receiving any money and the other said they hadn't heard about a reward until 2 days before testifying.

Exactly. I cannot believe that it is legal to entice someone to give evidence and for it to be admissable in court. I am utterly ashamed of our legal process.

Strawberry, where have you read that?

All I will say on the legal aid charity idea, is there will be no shortage of work. Plenty of fish in barrel cases for solicitors and barristers to make a name on.

All it needs is funding.

In the daily case updates from court Pippa the mirror, walesonline news and various twitter accounts of journalists who were in the courtroom.

I'm reading the exact opposite on Twitter - that his girlfriend 'coached' them and they were paid £50k each. Could be an echo chamber, I suppose but the Guardian article suggests a link.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3832198/Ched-Evans-arrives-court-second-day-cross-examination.html

According to an ex lover, she had sex with him [ex lover] and not remembered what happened the night before.
But I think the crucial evidence was apparently there was a particular "phrase" she used on Ched Evans that she has also used on the ex lover.

So it looks like Massey messaged the (prosecution witness) hotel receptionist on Facebook:

"We are appealing for new information and there's a £50,000 reward for any new evidence.

"Do you know anything that could help Ched? X"'

Not a bribe, just the 'flavour of a bribe' apparently. How the fuck that's legal is beyond me.

So is the court system endorsing the idea that penises are interchangeable? In which case, let's get rid of men and just use vibrators. The courts have endorsed it. Or we could lobotomise them.

Wait, maybe someone did that already.

I wonder if it's the details released on the attempts to get the original verdict quashed they have been reporting on? In the trial this week the witnesses vehemently denied receiving any money.

I doubt they ever will but I'm sure they're expecting it!

I will not read any Daily Mail articles on the subject.

If she had sex with these ex boyfriends when she was unable to consent too, all that proves is that they are also guilty of rape!!

A very cynical world weary part of me wonders if she said I feel like I am a man then it would be clear cut rape. Depressing.

Pippa I say that to myself every day but somehow they still manage to appear somewhere

Either way I don't believe they weren't motivated by the reward. If NM contacted the receptionist of the hotel in that way then it is absurd to think she wouldn't contact other people.

Wait, maybe someone did that already.

Nope, not yet.

"But I think the crucial evidence was apparently there was a particular "phrase" she used on Ched Evans that she has also used on the ex lover."

She didn't "use" it on CE, she said it to CM. Interesting turn of phrase there though.

In fact she allegedly said it to CM.

Took 5 years and a 50,000 reward to uncover that particular nugget though eh Scallops?

Strawberry, you should refrain if you can as it adds to their web hits which feed their xenophobic, misogynistic bile.

This verdict is a dark, dark day for women. I worry about the future of the world for our daughters.

The witness who claimed she used the same phrases only came forward with that 'evidence' after Ched's conviction and those phrases had been reported. He made 3 conflicting statements.

In fact, I just said to DH that I'm not sure I would encourage DD to report it to police if she was raped. How utterly fucked up is that. I bet Ched's victim wishes she had never said anything.

'96% of rapists are not rapists in the eyes of the law'

Would make a good t-shirt, badge, poster, placard at MWR.

Well indeed Strawberry.

I'm going to tweet that Countess - if you don't mind.