(Yes it's a trans thread! Don't click if you're gonna whinge) The SAGE test.

[BeyondASpecialSnowflake]

Having been directed to this test by someone who has come to mn to enlighten us all as to how we are all wrong to think "trans are in league with the devil" (wtf?!) and how "yes gender is not provable, but neither is God and we all believe he is real" (again wtf?!), I decided to have a go. Apparently it is used as part of the diagnostic procedure, though this person does seem to be posting from Amercia.

I will warn you, it is a truly awfully written and unbelievably biased piece of bullshit, featuring spelling mistakes, leading questions, and at one point the wrong "there"!! It didn't take too long though, and thanks to it I now know that I am a man. There are issues with some questions raised that can easily be 'answered' by my asd, so it's a tad biased there too.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else fancied having a go at it too...

I am weeping with laughter at the ads offered to me alongside Peggy Lee -
'Take your psychology degree this fall!'
And
And
'Some things in life are bull - (your banking doesn't have to be)'
Bahahaha.

I'm very comfortable in my skin (female) but the test said I was androgynous and a possible FTM transsexual. They really need to reconsider their test. I never liked dolls, or jewellery, or wearing dresses, but it doesn't mean I'm less female than a man who does like that stuff...

And all the stuff about feeling aroused by housework, breastfeeding and traditional 'woman' stuff is concerning, and seems to point towards people like the truck driver who pretends he is a female toddler fulltime, and fucks his 'foster father'. It seems like a type of sexual deviancy to me, and I'm not sure why it would be included?

Here's mine:

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: 320, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Feminine
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.
You appear to socialize in a androgynous manner.
You believe you have normal doubts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Crossdresser
NOTES:

You are in a statistical minority as a bisexual crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the binary nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Male gender role.

I don't think I can bring myself to take the test (can't handle the truth, clearly!), but I had a google and found this "technical details" page written by its creator. There are a set of FAQs about the questions etc. I hope you all realise the recommendation is to take it five times in a row!

www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/sage/tech.htm

I'd rather become a cross-dresser than take it 5 times in a row!

19. Do you have a Bi-Polar disorder?

    No.
    Hey, everyone has ups and downs, it isn't a "disorder."
    Never really thought about it.
    A little bit, possibly - some days you're up some days you're down.
    Yes, and you take medication for it.

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This is disgusting really...assuming all people who have bipolar are women, basically :S What the actual fuck at the 'worst of the criminals' one

Anyway, I finished it as I have nowt to do today and

Your Raw Score is: -950, which indicates that overall you are Masculine

Your appearance is Masculine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Masculine Male person.

You appear to socialize in a very masculine manner.

You believe you have no real conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
If your physical sex is Female your analysis confuses S.A.G.E., as you appear to have attributes of the Male gender, but have not apparently done anything to alter your physical appearance. Leading this program to wonder if you are actually Intersexed? If you are not, your hesitation to begin transition indicates you have doubts about your ability to successfully do so, even though you seem to be a serious candidate for Gender Reassignment Surgery.

No, I am not intersexed funnily enough

Nice to know if I ever fancy a cock of my own I am a serious candidate for surgery though

I think anyone else coming to this thread can spare themselves the time - you're almost bound to be either a rare androgenous crossdresser or a conflicted should-be FTT.

This is what the creator says about whether the questions in the test are stereotypical:

Some of them are, some of them aren't. There are certain behaviors that are socially accepted as "feminine" or "masculine" and engaging in those behaviors will define you socially. In that respect, it can be very useful in identifying a "gender incongruity". Other questions are based on psychological research to help determine if the subject's brain is "wired" more like the typical male or female brain. Some of the questions favor the thought processes typical of women over men, and vise (sic) versa".

Eh? Whats the point in taking it five times? It was bad enough the first time. I haven't suddenly developed a fetish for french maid outfits in the last five minutes.

They missed a trick with the "favourite ape" question. Where are the bonobos? Surely the most sexed-up ape should be on the list!

Apparently it's designed to exhaust you and break down your defensiveness.

Finally completed it, although there were quite a few I couldn't answer:

Your Raw Score is: 415, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Feminine

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Androgynous person.

You appear to socialize in a feminine manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Normal doubts/curiosities about life as the opposite sex, but you generally accept your physical sex and gender identity.

NOTES:

Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.

I don't think I cba doing the test (lazy and probably masculine...) but I saw someone mention pumps earlier. I'm 90% sure that in the US pumps either is or includes high heels.

WTAF is this? I didn't get all the way through it (which probably also has some great significance to my gender/sexuality)

Why does my ability to reverse park matter with regards to my gender/sexuality?

Ditto for housework
Ditto for maths

Was this written in the 1950's?

Ah hahahahaha - I just took a little peek. What the actual fuck has height to do with it? Ohmergadz, I'm too tall to be a woman!

Still, at least author says it's not a diagnostic tool. No shit.

I got the androgynous female to male cross dresser
This test isn't actually used is it?
It just has bizarre ideas about biological sex meaning particular things.

Also don't know what dressing like the opposite sex means tbh.

Oh the bipolar question was really something, wasn't it...
Especially since no one is meant to take the test with any existing mh issues??

"Wired" more like the typical male or female brain.

Yup, neurobollocks.

I'm sure its not a real test, but that doesn't mean that people wont take it seriously

And surely the worst criminals are gangs of murderous rapists?!

LOL .. load of rubbish .. I'm 99% sure this was written by a male with a unhealthy obsession with sex. Some questions are really sexist, others are just a load of rubbish... whoever wrote this obviously just doesn't have a clue.

Apparently I'm a female to male crossdresser (was unaware of this :P )

Has anyone actually got the answer that they are overall 'female' or is that not allowed incase it offends someone? :P

Huh. I'm a man. Who knew?

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: -495, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous

Your appearance is Androgynous

Your brain processes are mostly that of a Male person.

You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.

You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.

You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Transsexual in doubt about your ability to successfully transition.
NOTES:

Your Answers indicate your psychological state has likely prevailed since you were quite young.

"Has anyone actually got the answer that they are overall 'female'"

I make it two so far, could have missed one though...which seems awfy awfy low given that everyone on this thread seems to be biologically female and identify as being female.

It's almost as if those things asked about have nothing to do with being female...

Apparently I'm androgynous in appearance and probably work as a drag act in a lesbian bar for kicks

Delurks/

This test is hilarious, and I'm pretty sure the man who originally typed it was doing so one-handed It's entirely American, outdated, MTT focused, and hilariously confirms autogynephilia as a definite thing, and makes me even less willing to have males who so clearly fetishise females' bodies in women's spaces.

I got:

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: -515, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Feminine
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Male person.
You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.
You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Female.

ANALYSIS:
Female to Male Transsexual in doubt about your ability to successfully transition.
NOTES:
[none]

And then out of curiosity, I went back and switched "female" sex to "male" to see what the test thought of that, and got:

S.A.G.E. Test Results
Your Raw Score is: -515, which indicates that overall you are Androgynous
Your appearance is Feminine
Your brain processes are mostly that of a Male person.
You appear to socialize in a masculine manner.
You believe you have mild conflicts about your gender identity.
You indicated your were born Male.

ANALYSIS:
Male to Female Crossdresser
NOTES:
You are in a statistical minority as a bisexual crossdresser. Most crossdressers are heterosexual. Your motivation for crossdressing may be driven by the binary nature of your sexuality, as a way to more fully explore the Female gender role.

So apparently I'm too masculine to be a woman, but were I a male I'd be too feminine to be a man. Clearly I just fail at gender