Safe place for budding feminists

[Mamaka]

As some of us have had our opinions, feelings and questions so completely bulldozed in other threads, I thought I'd try and start a safe place for newly questioning and of course veteran feminists to explore without fear of being misunderstood or ridiculed.

A couple of things I'd like to know:

I've just found out that there is no feminism group where I live and am seriously considering starting one but feeling a little unqualified for it. Any recommendations for where to start if I wanted to do this?

I've just read the equality illusion by Kat banyard in its entirety and now I'm feeling riled up. How can I start to move from anger and frustration towards positive action? (This is really what my previous thread should have been called!)

Hello Mamaka!

Working right now but marking place for another time

Hi Jacquetta! Yes I'm also (meant to be) working so will disappear for a while.

Mp :)

Hello!

I need this! Having spent all week on your relationships thread, I feel I need a crash course in how to handle posters who read 'man-hating' into everything I type, no matter how carefully I thought about every word.

Also, how not to get needled, so I don't go off on a rant! I know it's pointless, but I was so frustrated by being so obtusely misunderstood.

And to learn from the amazing posters who hang out over here.

Thank you Mamaka - glad I found you! Not been to the feminism threads before . Btw I was alerted to your new thread by one of the bulldozers in the previous... With luck we might get a semi-decent chat going here anyway.

Ironic that there horrible smug behaviour has led me to the feminists really!

Looks like a few of us have been converted from your other thread. Isn't it amazing what can happen when a man wades in to "set thy women to rights!"

What a lovely idea.

"I'd try and start a safe place"

Good luck.

This is an open internet site, and the incompatibility of that with the very concept of a 'safe space' has been thrashed out extensively in huge threads. MNHQ were crystal clear they are not going to moderate any particular topics differently, even when the regulars sometimes claim it should be so.

It's a bit of a red rag phrase now. Unpleasant reverberations of the 'FWR wars'

Hello all! I'm just going to read and watch as I don't feel I know enough but would really love to start to learn.

Mother to three dds and I'm not going to have them rail roaded like I was

Well, they were hopping up and down and trying to compare murder, rape and violent attacks on women to car accidents... We must have managed to antagonize them somehow! They did love to go on about the use of the H word (not going to post it again as it appears to be a trigger) rather than the issues we were trying to talk about, is that gaslighting?

Can I join for a nose? I consider myself a feminist but don't always agree with the feminists on here so might just have a read.

Thank you for that, Buffy.

I can hold my head up high and state that no man has been harmed from any action caused by the feelings I carry towards men.

I am wary. If that offends any particular man, I will respectfully suggest he takes it up with the large subsection of men who have led me to this place, as that is where my wariness originates.

If you want a safe space, you have to make it yourself.

Perhaps get a blog on wordpress and moderate the comments heavily.

On mumsnet, as we have seen, threads get derailed by angry males.

If anti-feminists approve of your feminism, something is amiss, right?

Exactly.

This has taken off! Brilliant!

I hope it's clear I was referring to Buffy's 1, 2, post above.

If anti-feminists approve of your feminism, something is amiss, right?

That is a very useful phrase. I shall carry it in my head.

Is it possible to raise children to be, if not active feminists, but certainly not sexist these days?? My three year old boy already gets angry when offered pink things, this hasn't come from me!?

I second Buffy's suggestion of 17:00. Busy with dc for couple of hours but will be back to read eagerly later!