New anti-trans legislation in North Carolina

[SlowFJH]

Of course it's been driven by the religious right wing. But it does aim to achieve what many posters here appear to advocate - namely that biological males can only use men's toilets and changing rooms etc. Biological females must only use women's toilets and changing rooms. Will it gain wider support?

Yep. Clearly a bloke.

You seem to getting a little cwoss CoteDAzur. Chillax.

Clearly an MRA feeling excluded from women's spaces, though he has never made it clear why he is so desperate to have access to them. ..

he has never made it clear why he is so desperate to have access to them. ..

Oh, I think he has.

Remember that this is the poster who, earlier today, tried to convince us that predatory men won't take advantage of the reduced risk of detection that shared spaces will provide; despite all the evidence to the contrary..... I think the motives are very clear.

PrettyBright
"If the law changes men in dresses will get the same protection as those people of minority race, religion etc"

See this just typifies anti-trans prejudice. What would be wrong with any

"I have shared that the NHS has guidelines and procedures to ensure that the patients wishes are respected. "

No you haven't. You've shared that sensible people compromised.

That doesn't imply that there are guidelines and procedures.

Proof please? Guideline paragraphs? Seeing as how you demand them from other posters.

Section of society getting equal protection under the law?

Now might be an apposite time to post this article.

It's about why men don't listen to women.

pretty ah, good point. Yes, his motives are now very clear.

Keep it coming PrettyBright. You will be so incredibly embarrassed by your transphobic and hateful insinuations in years to come.

Or perhaps you won't.

Not sure whoch is worse.

slow "Men in dresses" aren't a section of society. transwomen are, and some transwomen wear dresses.

Men in sandals aren't a section of society, either. Neither are women in bikinis.

What you wear does not define who you are.

Kua
Ha! Keep it coming. This is showing your true colours now .

And what would they be slow?

No doubt lots of MNers will jump to PosieReturningParker's defence

I won't. That comment was indefensible for the reasons 2-6 you stated.

Comments like that are , in my opinion, deeply unhelpful and counter-productive.

Personally I'm not in the least bit bothered about the idea of unisex toilets or what sex or gender the NHS trained professional who does my smear test is. But other women, due to negative life experiences and/or cultural /religious views are. Comments like Posie's do nothing to assist in finding a way of taking account of the legitimate concerns of such women in a way which does not label trans persons as freaks.

However , I'm not convinced by your bona fides given your lack of understanding over misgendering.

Er hello ... PrettyBright

The phrase "Men in dresses" was used by YOU .

Read your own comment from 23:42 today 27:3:16...let me remind you of what you YOURSELF said

"If the law changes men in dresses will get the same protection as those people of minority race, religion etc"

So you're arguing with your own words?

Trans "women" are 100% male. They are men. Becoming eunuchs does not make them women. Surgically inverting their genitals does not make them women. Taking hormones and growing breasts does not make them women. Getting their facial hair removed does not make them women. Having their faces surgically altered to resemble women does not make them women. Putting on a dress does not make them women. They are not women and never can be women, never will be women.

Despite blatant, widely-known evidence that "straight" men who pretend to be women have a lifelong sexual fetish (to which they have become addicted), these men have somehow gas-lighted millions of people into believing that they are actually women -- just because they say so.

I don't like being gas-lighted by Global Misogyny Inc. and I refuse to participate in their game. It is not a "harmless" little thing -- because on the basis of the "gender identity" lie the men invented, children who don't comply with stereotypical sex roles (i.e. "gender") are being surgically and hormonally mutilated.

I WON'T "validate" these men's fantasies.

So you're arguing with your own words?

oh, dear. I was quoting your post, slow. The post in which you countered a pp by saying that the NHS would have policies to allow patients to refuse to be treated by "men in dresses". You wrote it, as a quote from a pp, in your post, and I was quoting you.

You interpreted my words "men in dresses " to mean trans-women. I didn't. I know that trans-women and men in dresses are very different.

What I don't know is how to distinguish between a transwomen wearing a dress and a man wearing a dress. Can you tell me, please?

You haven't posted the NHS guidelines you say exist Slow.

Kua
It's pretty obvious. Which is why this thread provides such great evidence. It started with my belief that the overwhelming majority of people want to use the loo simply to pee, poo, wash their hands, try to look acceptable for PosieReturningParker etc. You and PrettyBright have just very conveniently proven the point made many times here that you have prejudiced beliefs.

If such beliefs were held about a Jew - you'd be an anti-semite, about a black - person - you'd be a racist.

Shame on you.

But thanks for revealing your true colours.

Slow...each and every time you post you only further embarrass yourself. Your motives are anything but pure, and you sound spitefully gleeful when you think you've scored a point. You clearly think you're occupying some kind of moral high ground but youre really not.

I am also interested in why you refuse to answer the question as to whether you're a man - response?

AskBasil
There's this thing called Google. It works on the intertubes. HTH.

If such beliefs were held about a Jew - you'd be an anti-semite, about a black - person - you'd be a racist

And when such beliefs are held about a biological woman, it's sexist.

No, that is not the case and you know it. We can see what you are trying to do and to be honest are failing quite miserably at!

You are not the first MRA to post on MN and neither will you be the last, I have long since been bothered by the likes of you. You amuse me, you are a gift that keeps on giving. Please continue.

^stopped being

slow. why won't you show basil the same courtesy as I showed you and post a link to the material you have referenced?
Earlier this evening, you asked me for written evidence to support my position, which I provided in the form of a link and a quote.

Surely, in a debate about equality, it's reasonable to expect everyone to display the same respect for everyone else, irrespective of their position about the matter under debate ?