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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Can we have a general Trans thread?

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Brugmansia · 04/12/2015 02:33

Sorry for another trans thread and I feel this is a bit of an imposition given I don't post really.

Anyway reading FWR over the past few months has re-radicalised me. I've been reading lots here and wider.

Anyway just now been watching TV and there's been some stuff that's given me the rage but didn't seem to fit in existing threads or it's own thread.

Anyway thing that gave me the rage.
On BBC3 program on transgemder teen's the doctor just said "creating a vagina". Are doctors redefining vagina as pocket rather than a passage? Makes me want to screem.

Also Sarah Ditum being no platformed.

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Mide7 · 08/12/2015 18:14

Entirely up to you if you answer domtcallme. My point was perhaps transphobia gets thrown around a lot here but IMO it's up to trans people to decide what they think it's discrimination.

PosieReturningParker · 08/12/2015 18:49

OMG I'm so delighted to read many of these comments!! So tired of male privilege shitting all over women with the reinforcement of what being a woman means, all that boyhood privilege and then thinking they can be women..... it's just so, so, so fucking male.

howtorebuild · 08/12/2015 18:50

The BBC article swaps He and She around, it's not easy to follow.

howtorebuild · 08/12/2015 18:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-35030241

Tara feared being raped.

PosieReturningParker · 08/12/2015 18:55

How have we got to a point where one person can try and get the entire justice system to bend to their whim?

VestalVirgin · 08/12/2015 18:58

Tara feared being raped.

He, and a lot of other men. Prisons should have better safety.

@Posie: I don't know, maybe we have always been there when it comes to women being victimised to cater to males.

I wonder how women even managed to get separate prisons in the first place. Maybe it was to appease the males who owned the imprisoned women, back then.

EmpressOfTheVulvaCupcakes · 08/12/2015 19:00

I was immensely relieved that they kept Tara segregated.

ArcheryAnnie · 08/12/2015 19:33

PlonitbatPlonit I wrote to my MP about Hudson, and got quite a considered reply. I have also just called the BBC, pointing out that the person they were describing on the 5 o'clock news as a "trans woman", "Joanne" Latham, had never transitioned despite being in prison for 14 years, and this year changed his name by deed poll to "Eddie". So to describe him as a trans woman was entirely inaccurate. I got quite a good response there, too.

(Eddie Latham was so dangerous that he wasn't allowed to be alone with his own lawyer in case he tried to kill her, too.)

ShortcutButton · 08/12/2015 19:52

i thought I might get attacked. I thought I might get raped

that might sound dramatic but at the end of the day I have a large bust, I have bleached blonde hair, I have worked as a glamour model

it was not the right place for me

Hmm
VestalVirgin · 08/12/2015 20:02

So, he thinks himself to pretty for prison? Special snowflake syndrome?

That's the kind of person who must be locked up in prison, exactly to teach them that no one is above the law.

howtorebuild · 08/12/2015 20:05

I have complained to the BBC about factually inaccurate and biased reporting.

Mide7 · 08/12/2015 20:22

What's factually wrong howtorebuild

ArcheryAnnie · 08/12/2015 20:25

I think the BBC respond better if you tell them exactly what is wrong, and the information they need to fix it, rather than generalised complaint.

slugseatlettuce · 08/12/2015 20:33

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ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 08/12/2015 20:36

Tara Hudson was definitely vulnerable in prison. I'm not sure what the answer is to trans women in prison but lots of men are also vulnerable in prison so the answer isn't necessarily segregation for trans prisoners or placement in women's prison.

slugseatlettuce · 08/12/2015 20:37

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Mide7 · 08/12/2015 20:38

Well no slug but that's not the BBC saying that is it

venusinscorpio · 08/12/2015 20:42

Er, read ArcheryAnnie's last post, and you might see, mide. Also no mention that Tara retains the ability to give a seven inch surprise. Do you not think that's slightly relevant? I think the BBC is appalling on this issue personally. No balance whatsoever. They have a public duty to present the other side in such a nebulous debate.

slugseatlettuce · 08/12/2015 20:43

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Mide7 · 08/12/2015 20:53

I don't understand what relevance Annie's post is Venus.

It's probably relevant yeah but the story to me is from Tara's POV. There does seem to be a lack of another side tho.

ShortcutButton · 08/12/2015 21:06

In none of the media, have I seen any mention of the consideration of women prisoners, in the discussion of TW preferring to be housed in women's prisons

venusinscorpio · 08/12/2015 21:26

Annie's post:

I have also just called the BBC, pointing out that the person they were describing on the 5 o'clock news as a "trans woman", "Joanne" Latham, had never transitioned despite being in prison for 14 years, and this year changed his name by deed poll to "Eddie". So to describe him as a trans woman was entirely inaccurate. I got quite a good response there, too.

which bit of that is not relevant to the BBC being inaccurate and biased mide?

venusinscorpio · 08/12/2015 21:28

YY shortcut. It's not considered remotely relevant how the female prisoners might feel.

BeyondThirty · 08/12/2015 21:31

I'm sure i saw Victoria derbyshire ask tara hudson this morning "but what about the women prisoners" and get and a sort of "mnnneearrrreeerrr" response from tara hudson. I wasnt giving it my full attention though so i may be making that up!! Grin

Mide7 · 08/12/2015 21:34

Oh sorry Venus crossed wires, that wasn't Annie's last post.

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