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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Can we have a general Trans thread?

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Brugmansia · 04/12/2015 02:33

Sorry for another trans thread and I feel this is a bit of an imposition given I don't post really.

Anyway reading FWR over the past few months has re-radicalised me. I've been reading lots here and wider.

Anyway just now been watching TV and there's been some stuff that's given me the rage but didn't seem to fit in existing threads or it's own thread.

Anyway thing that gave me the rage.
On BBC3 program on transgemder teen's the doctor just said "creating a vagina". Are doctors redefining vagina as pocket rather than a passage? Makes me want to screem.

Also Sarah Ditum being no platformed.

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howtorebuild · 11/12/2015 19:38

I thought it was a dog.

howtorebuild · 11/12/2015 19:39

Looking again, I can see a rabbit.

ArcheryAnnie · 11/12/2015 19:42

I thought it was a spaniel.

ANYHOO - Shortcut, as I mentioned upthread, "Stefohknee" was thanked by name in the Canadian parliament when the "rights for people with penises to access women's spaces" bill was passed. (Disclaimer: the bill may not be called that.)

However, Obsidian also asked this:

I don't understand the stefonknee business. Surely regular trans people are as disgusted as anyone else?

and you might all be heartened to know, if you haven't seen it already, that the gender-crit transwomen on social media have been HOPPING MAD that this asshole has been presented as a "vulnerable trans woman hounded by TERFs" when he's a massive abuse-promoting creep.

slugseatlettuce · 11/12/2015 19:44

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CultureSucksDownWords · 11/12/2015 19:47

I can't believe the number of people willing to support and bolster Stephonknee's behaviour. I wonder where Stephonknee gets the idea that a 6 yr old girl would want to have sex with her father, and enjoy it? That is the mind of a paedophile, without doubt.

GreenTomatoJam · 11/12/2015 19:50

Oh slugs - I was trying to figure out what it looked like and you're right!

The DM is just stirring right? That was unbelievably sensitive writing for that rag. Anyone reading that can surely see that that's a fetish - you can't identify as a child!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 11/12/2015 19:51

I think the Daily Mail is clickbaiting tbh. They're setting him up for all the readers to express horror.

RufusTheReindeer · 11/12/2015 21:25

I thought it was a monkey, like a baboon

Or is that an ape Hmm i think its an ape

Its a shit picture of a penis in any case

PlonitbatPlonit · 11/12/2015 21:31

I thought it was a wolf in sheep's clothing.

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 11/12/2015 21:32

I thought it was a Moomin Confused

7Days · 11/12/2015 21:34

Brings to mind an argument another poster (Cote?) had in other threads, if a child identifies as an adult, are they actually an adult? She was using it as an example of plain daftness. And the frequent wry jokes about being a trans21yrold.

Here we are then

RufusTheReindeer · 11/12/2015 21:56

Deffo a baboon

Can we have a general Trans thread?
ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 11/12/2015 22:30

That knob picture is an embarrassed dog. Fact.

RufusTheReindeer · 11/12/2015 22:37

I showed it to dh to prove obsidian wrong

I said "is this a baboon or an embarrassed dog?"..and he said "it looks like a penis to me"

Hmm

I'm going to say the words "miss key board" to him and see if it rings any bells

Elendon · 11/12/2015 23:59

It's 'no face' from Spirited Away. Fact.

Cerseirys · 12/12/2015 00:21

vesuvia, nothing sinister on my part, I merely wrote "almost" because a) I don't have exact statistics to hand but assumed that like all violence it's almost always committed by men, and b) I figured that if I'd not added "almost" then someone would've been along to inform me of a couple of cases where women were violent and the thread would've been derailed.

BeyondThirty · 12/12/2015 11:09

Wish i'd known when i was 15 and wanted to buy cider that there was an option of 'identifying' as an 18 year old.

Plus all those 15-16 year olds who want the age for voting lowered....

VestalVirgin · 12/12/2015 11:47

@Beyond: You can still go to the cinema, or wherever, and say that you identify as six year old and therefore want to pay less.
(And of course demand to see films that are for adults only - after all, Steph gets to have sex while identifying as six year old, so ...)

howtorebuild · 12/12/2015 12:06

no face' from Spirited Away

Yes

qumquat · 12/12/2015 13:00

Hi I hope you don't mind me coming in with a general trans question. I'm a teacher and a girl at my (girls') school has come out as transgender. I was talking to the (very liberal and generally awesome) chaplain and she was very open to hearing my concerns (which concur with most on here).

Can anybody recommend me any resources I could show her? Gender critical thought for beginners? I've found the transgender trend website which I think is brilliant. Anything with a focus on ftm would be great as there is so much more written about mtf.

BeyondJinglebells · 12/12/2015 13:12

I read a fascinating blog by a ftm recently (it was linked here) will see if i can find it but if not, i'm sure someone will be along who knows it :)

VestalVirgin · 12/12/2015 13:23

This blog by a ftt de-transitioner might be interesting:

mariacatt.com/

slugseatlettuce · 12/12/2015 13:25

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vesuvia · 12/12/2015 13:27

qumquat wrote - "a girl at my (girls') school has come out as transgender."

What is the school's official view of this? Are they already telling this child to leave the school, or is it still very early days?

VestalVirgin · 12/12/2015 13:40

It being a girl's school makes this an interesting case - according to what I read, all girls' schools usually give more freedom to girls in terms of being themselves, being good at maths or other "boyish" subjects, being outspoken in class, good at sports, etc.

I would imagine the pressure to be gender-conforming would be less, but of course that can vary from school to school, and girls have a life outside of school, too.

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