Article in Huffpost about transphobia in midwifery

[TribbleNamedDave]

I've read this several times now, and I honestly don't know what I think about it all.

Vasha you are right, I don't know any trans people. The opportunity hasn't come up to meet any.

If I had a trans friend then yes no doubt I would discuss these emerging issues with him or her.

However, as the opportunity hasn't come up and I am still interested in the issues chatting them through on MN seems reasonable to me.

For a controversial issue this thread has stayed (I think) largely polite, but you are right it could do with someone to explain the opposing view - are you volunteering?

Interesting article about a transman being worried about violence in male only spaces like a place where everyone is naked (locker room maybe). It seems fairly obvious they would feel worried and would be in danger. Which is a sad indictment on men in general.

I would love to know what makes people 'feel' trans. Yes, I do know people in real life but it is a hard question to ask.

Not sure I'm really qualified Sunshine and aware in retrospect my post was pretty unhelpful as it's not like you can just purchase yourself a trans friend and expect them to answer all your questions! I think what I was getting at was that the more trans people I meet the more I understand. Still don't quite get it, as I've never had that experience but it is starting to make a bit more sense.
Also aware this has drifted from your original discussion. As you were...

I just read that because ha gave birth and was breastfeeding being man La Leche League changed rules and now men can teach women how to breastfeed i.e. be breastfeeding coach.

It feels like he thinks he can bully everyone to use HIS view of the world.

I can't get my head around it and IMHO his actions are very selfish.

I totally agree with In a May

Giving birth has nothing to do with your gender, it is about your sex

Only females/women give birth, and when they do they become mothers

Whether they like it or not, they are facts

Have read the article and just googled "genderqueer" to find it means "not exclusively masculine or feminine" - guess that means 99% of us are genderqueer? So how useful is that term? (Sorry for the beginner's question)

Yes, it really gets in my tits rain

I will not be defined by 'gender', especially by relationship to someone else's 'gender'

Because a small group of people invest way too much of their identity on some outward projection of masculinity or femininity, I am 'cis gendered'? Cannot be referee to in child birth literature as a woman? A mother? Childbirth and pregnancy are not women's issues?

Seriously, gender theory can Fuck off

I agree completely. Some people think about this stuff far too much. I think it's really bizarre to be that obsessed with your sexual identity. The fact is, no one cares what it is apart from you. To everyone else it's totally unimportant and slightly ridiculous.

And it really fecking doesn't matter how you see yourself. Everyone is unique and everyone has their own unique mix of (perceived) 'masculine' and 'feminine' attributes.

So effing what, really. Who actually cares? Not many of us, I'd guess.

(by the way I am not trying to sockpuppet, I have already posted on this thread but have incidentally namechanged for different reasons)