Are there any forms of consensual behavior that would 'disqualify' someone from being a feminist?

[willkeaveney62417]

Are there any forms of consensual behavior that would 'disqualify' someone from being a feminist?

Would that also apply to prostitution? Would you need to have experience paying for sex before you can judge it?

what do you think fayyive?

willkeaveney62417 wrote - "Everyone here is a feminist"

Oh, if only that were true...

I don't think it's a coincidence this thread started just after the college bar closed, is it will? Write your own essay!

@wickedlazy What is ds? And by the sound of it there it could be argued that you don't qualify as a housewife because you're too slavey ;) for not expecting anything from your husband
@Buffy No that did not help. Your comment cancels itself out. The whole point of a messageboard is to become acquainted with new belief systems at an entirely different pace than what is possible with reading published material.

If you don't think my comments provide enough of a starting point for you, then suggest whatever reading material you represents you.

How does 50 Shades of Grey shaped feminist discourse?

That's not the point of this parenting forum, Will.

How do you think 50SOG shapes feminist discourse?

What is ds? And by the sound of it there it could be argued that you don't qualify as a housewife because you're too slavey ;) for not expecting anything from your husband Ds is the slang often used on this site to mean darling son. Darling son is used to mean son, even if they aren't a little darling.

He is my dp (darling partner) not my husband. And I expect a lot if things from him. Just not help with the housework when he has been at work all day and I have been at home all day. But as I said, this is the point where I often seem to "disqualify" .

Oh and thank you buffy

I saw 50SOG. It was utter bobbins.

About once a week (quite often correlated with when the pubs close) I get this awful sense of deja vu. So tedious.

And what has 50 shades of grey got to do with feminism? Surely it's about two consenting adults who engage in bdsm, one of whom may have mental health issues, and the other who began to see the bdsm as bordering on abuse and left the relationship. Grey is the way he is because he was abused by a woman who engaged him in bdsm practices when he was a teenager?

Righty ho, OP, here's an introductory reading list for you:
Simone de Beauvoir - Le Deuxième Sexe
Susan Faludi - Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women
Bell Hooks - Feminist Theory: From Margin to Center
Judith Butler - Gender Trouble
Nancy Chodorow - The Reproduction of Mothering
Kate Millet - Sexual Politics
Shulamith Firestone -The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution

There will be a two hour written exam on all of these books following which you will be expected to submit five written pages on either: a) the history of the women's movement in Western Europe from the late 18th to early 20th century, b) feminist critiques of philosophy, literary theory and psychoanalysis or c) feminism as a political movement in late capitalism.

Depending on how well you score, we will be happy to answer one or two of your questions on the subject.

Good luck!

"Sex positive feminism can empower a woman to hysteric highs"

Really, genuinely, need some explanation of this. Deeply curious on many levels.

Can I add Wifework to that list please uglyswan.

"Surely it's about two consenting adults who engage in bdsm, one of whom may have mental health issues, and the other who began to see the bdsm as bordering on abuse and left the relationship."

No, it's not bdsm, it's abuse. BDSM-ers have been very clear about that.

And what has 50 shades of grey got to do with feminism?

You've missed all the commentary among feminists and also in the BDSM community about it not actually being consenting, then.

I'd like to add Delusions of Gender by Cordelia Fine and the Equality Illusion by Kat Banyard to the list.

@wickedlazy I assumed the second paragraph followed the opening paragraph on your previous comment.

Why should it not mean dear sir?

@buffy Are you implying that is impossible for a woman calling herself a feminist to degrade herself?

@uglyswan Thanks for the references thats quite a list.

Because, dear, there's an acronym list for this website that's been established for 15 years. Y'know, since before you were born. So stick with the local traditions, hmm?

@yonic Never noticed the list there. You'd think close knit communities would evolve beyond these things. I suppose the burden lies on me to set an example and ignore your immature insult.

@buffy Do self-proclaimed feminists ever degrade themselves, without being aware of it at the time.

You'd think close knit communities would evolve beyond these things.

This is an entirely public community, and there are new posters all the time. The acronym list and house rules are there to help people fit in more quickly. There are always people who will find the style here won't suit them, in which case, they're entirely free to go and explore the rest of the internet or indeed, log off and go and do something totally different. If someone doesn't like it here, it's entirely their choice whether they continue with it or not.

So don't let us stop you.

The DS DD DP acronyms were common Internet parlance before MN and are not exclusive to it now

'Degrade' is a very strange word to use. As is 'hysterical'. Especially in this particular context