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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are there any forms of consensual behavior that would 'disqualify' someone from being a feminist?

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willkeaveney62417 · 22/03/2015 23:29

Are there any forms of consensual behavior that would 'disqualify' someone from being a feminist?

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CheerfulYank · 23/03/2015 00:22

Like if you think doing sex work is empowering, do you mean?

fayyive · 23/03/2015 00:23

Should sex-positive feminists (those who generally prefer certain aspects of the sex industry to be regulated and legalised as opposed to criminalised) be disqualified from calling themselves feminists?

ChopperGordino · 23/03/2015 00:26

Why, do you think they should fayyive?

willkeaveney62417 · 23/03/2015 00:34

What might be done in the name of a unified feminism could upset others. What are the most controversial trends? What happens when somone claiming to be feminist misrepresents others? If the individual is the final authority, how can the interests of all women be advanced?

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willkeaveney62417 · 23/03/2015 00:36

Sex-positive feminism, interesting. Can this ever empower a woman more than a man?

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ChopperGordino · 23/03/2015 00:36

What do you think?

Lweji · 23/03/2015 00:42

If the individual is the final authority, how can the interests of all women be advanced?

If you strive for self determination and equality, it's possible for the individual to be the final authority while making sure that the interests of all women are protected, surely.

53Dragon · 23/03/2015 00:44

How about this... I didn't change my name when I got married, but when ds1 went to school I started using dh's surname because I wanted the same surname as my children. I'm the same person, I'm not subservient in any way but I have ceased using the surname given to me at birth (which, after all, was my father's family name rather than my mother's).

I've now separated from dh but continue to use 'his' name.

YonicScrewdriver · 23/03/2015 00:45

Will

Not everyone who posts here identifies as a feminist. I have no idea if Fay does. FYI, in case it helps your research, many of us disagree with Fay on a number of matters, not being monolithic.

Of course, you may already know fay. It's a small world.

AnyFucker · 23/03/2015 01:02

< koff >Goady < koff > Fucker

SukieTuesday · 23/03/2015 01:08

If a troll farts in a forest does anyone smell it?

willkeaveney62417 · 23/03/2015 01:29

it sounds like sex-positive feminism is a response to a form of feminism is not, but in what way?

Sex positive feminism can empower a woman to hysteric highs, but as an individual. The attention she receives lessens the potential empowerment of other women. If the interests of a group of men is consensual, or parceled effectively by the women, she empowers herself.

Should married couples invent a new last name for themselves?

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wickedlazy · 23/03/2015 01:29

Sukie the troll would. And would probably enjoy it too Grin

I wouldn't call myself a feminist, but I think women should have equal rights. I think we should be able to do everything men do. Walk the streets wearing whatever we want in peace, same pay, voting rights etc. But I also want to take my partners name if we ever get married. I like that our ds has his name.

I like when he comes home from work, and I have ds tucked up warm and comfy in bed after having a nice day with me, housework done, candles lit and I give him a foot rub in front of the telly, yet I know he would never think to do the same for me. Or should I say couldn't do it to the same standard.

I think I disqualify from being a feminist because I'm to housewifey.

DoctorTwo · 23/03/2015 04:17

AnyFucker and SukieTuesday are spot on I reckon. And funny with it.

BuffyEpistemiwhatsit · 23/03/2015 07:46

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JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/03/2015 08:51

Well, you answered it yourself, will. If posting in this section makes us feminists, then stepping out of it turns us into pumpkins. I myself have a satisfying alternative life posting in MN's little-known 'kill the boy children and become a political lesbian' section, but I never dare to talk about it here.

violetwellies · 23/03/2015 09:07

Taking the OP at face value.
I suppose if she were to get involved in the trafficking of women and girls then her feminist credentials might take a battering?

EBearhug · 23/03/2015 09:10

You can't kill all the boy children, Jeanne. Who else will I exploit to do whatever stuff it is I want doing?

JeanneDeMontbaston · 23/03/2015 09:12

Blush I'm sorry. It's my ladybrain.

Ubik1 · 23/03/2015 09:18

Dunno

I let DP do the plastering yesterday while I did the washing

uglyswan · 23/03/2015 10:07

"Sex positive feminism can empower a woman to hysteric highs, but as an individual." OP, did you run this back on forth through google translate before posting? Or are you a bot?

ApocalypseThen · 23/03/2015 10:29

Well, despite not really getting what the OP is thinking of and what the agenda is (and it's clear there is an agenda), I would say that procuring or allowing FGM in a western country would be an action which would leave me wondering whether you could ever really be considered a feminist since the purpose is to permanently attack women's comfort and sexuality in order to conform to extreme patriarchy.

fayyive · 23/03/2015 12:18

What about a feminist who goes to see 50 shades of grey? Would paying to see such a movie (thus increasing the demand for it) be anti-feminist?

ChopperGordino · 23/03/2015 12:21

what do you think fayyive?

EBearhug · 23/03/2015 12:28

How can you judge something like 50 Shades without seeing it? I can on hear, but I wouldn't if I were reviewing it for an academic paper or the like - some feminists have to see it, if only to tell others why they shouldn't. Likewise with porn - you can accept what Gail Dines says about it, but she became an expert on the subject by having to watch an awful lot of it. You have to know your enemy, so some feminists have to consume the bad media, so it can be criticised with knowledge, and so the rest of us can choose not to.

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