Feminist Pub XVIII, in which the Bluestocking greets the first signs of spring with a glass of something soothing

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Just starting this one as the last is nearly full

I wouldn't have expected my grim northern town would be a bastion of feminism, but my Tuesday toddler singing torture session proved otherwise. One session last year was utterly derailed by a discussion of potential alternative lyrics that weren't dripping with sexist assumption, and since then the chattering mummies and moaning daddies have been skipped.

I am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the objectification of Aiden Turner in Poldark elsethread. It would be unacceptable if people were going on about a woman like that, and all the shots of him swimming naked and swishing a scythe while topless are entirely gratuitous. Surely the sort of equality we're aiming for should be where no one is objectified, rather than everyone is?

I think my mummies on the bus say "don't do that" which is probably more accurate. The one doing the chattering is generally DS1 (he's 4. At a stage where you just cannot stop him talking, and he can keep going for HOURS)

Can't for the life of me remember what the daddies do..

DP was disappointed at the episode in the end - there'd been such a build up, even the announcer going on about Mr. Darcy-esque scenes, and then there just wasn't anything really worth getting hot and bothered about at all.

I found the Rose and the White (or whatever it was called - had the irish bloke from The IT crowd in it) funny because they clearly had gratuitous knob shots to balance out the boobs!

Haven't watched Poldark (loved the original too much to mar it) but I do agree with you Ebear. We'd be outraged were he a woman.

And I am also aching for . Just spent 2 hours in a lighting shop with DH, trying to decide on a new ceiling light & neither of us could agree/make minds up. Lovely shop, amazingly helpful staff but still wearying.

Haven't watched Poldark but was put off for exactly that reason by trailer.

In other news, fight against patriarchy temporarily halted by lurgy generously passed on by dc, so my day has gone: bed, Lemsip, tissues, sleep, woken by small child thundering, radio 4, Twitter, meh, try to sleep, runny nose, thrashing around, radio 3, music too shouty, read book, bored by book ...

Etc ad inf.

Thank the gods dc is working at home but I have not trained him well re

That's dh working. Dcs bit young yet.

All the parents on our bus are evenly divided between mummies and daddies. DS insists. I think they mainly say I love you and Ssh ssh ssh.

We used to have the parents on the bus say shh, shh, shh. Mainly because there were complaints about sexism from the parents at the group.

Today I have mostly been at work.

Luckily we only sang songs in another language about riding to the market on a donkey and being flung into the mud pool.

It's a nice tune too.

Grrr! Aargh!

Nerf is a domesticated bison-like quadruped in the Star Wars franchise, bred mainly as fatstock.

More pertinently, Nerf Herder sang the Buffy theme tune, and Grr! Aargh! Was the closing card.

I'm as confused as you LordCopper (and I knew what a beef need nerf was even if my autocorrect doesn't)

Surely the sort of equality we're aiming for should be where no one is objectified, rather than everyone is?

You make a good point. When we have equality I will happily stop objectifying Aiden Turner. In the mean time...he is gorgeous.

I didn't watch Poldark. It just looks a bit meh....

What a great word "meh" is!

And so to bed, before I get even more .

I don't think objectifying men is quite the same. There are far more real and present threats to women associated with the type of men who see us as things.

Anyway, "pwoar Aiden" is not quite the same as objectifying him. I would also be perfectly willing to have a nice chat with him if I bumped into him in the pub (actually probably not, I'd be a wobbly mess of quasi-teenagerness).

The point is, I don't feel like I could force him to do anything, nor would I want to - I'm not sure the blokes who take 10 minutes to read page 3 see things the same way.

LordC we need YouTube please.

I cannot stay away from the older-mum-bashing-thread. Absolutely nobody saying older dads are creepy (though one mention of a dad with Alzheimers).