Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

[AKnickerfulOfMenace]

This is the 17th incarnation of the Feminist Pub!

Here be goats, cannons and chat on feminism and related themes. Also snacks. And booze, copious booze.

Welcome!

[AKnickerfulOfMenace]

Pub 16 link

Pub 16

This pub is decorated in tribute to Mark Rylance Thomas Cromwell, so we have lots of dark wood panelling, many candles, large turquoise rings and mead on tap

[EBearhug]

Mead's horrible. Can I have some ginger beer please?

[PetulaGordino]

Thanks for the new pub!

I have had a day of Feminist Fury™

Nothing specific has happened, I'm just feeling the rage today

[AKnickerfulOfMenace]

[AnnieLobeseder]

I like mead. A flagon for me please!

[PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom]

Hi.< Staggers in >

Chick is attempting to kill me with sleep deprivation. Thank you for the work comments. Thank you too Buffy. It is a bit down the road and will respond properly when less brain dead.

I see some of you have been name changing to confuse me again.

[Artifexmumdi]

Marks place so she can keep up.

Petula, I know what you mean though I have a specific. I'm currently irritated by the change in cast in Death in Paradise. They had a 2:2 ratio of men to women as police officers, but one of the women left and has now been replaced by a man so it is now 3:1. Why couldn't they have gotten another woman?

Penguins, I empathise with the sleep deprivation only mine is caused by DD2 getting up at 5:30 when I have been up on and off all night with DS.

[PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom]

I feel your pain Arti.

[FuckOffGroundhog]

I'm being sold the dirtiest flirtiest Surf ever.

50 Shades of Surf

It's got handcuffs hanging off the Surf on the label it's in the MN ad on the right. That is the most ridiculous film tie in ever right?

I suppose when I'm not being tied up I should be tidying up right?

[AKnickerfulOfMenace]

It's only a temporary Wolf Hall tribute name, Penguins.

[PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom]

Ok. I might have a slight idea who you are.

I failed to read WH and haven't watched it either.

[EBearhug]

They have knickers in Wolf Hall?

We never did that a A-level.

[OublietteBravo]

I don't mind mead, but I'd rather have gin.

I haven't been around for a while, so I apologise if I should know you, but can't figure out who you are considers spreadsheet of names past and present

[AKnickerfulOfMenace]

Nah, I only changed name today!

WH is on iPlayer if you fancy it, Penguins.

[PuffinsAreFictitious]

I'm crap at guessing name changes.

Can I have a butt of malmsey and a surfeit of lampreys please?

[Dragonlette]

Good evening everybody.

I have a sore back. I twisted awkwardly while I was carrying a big box of exercise books yesterday and now can barely move without wanting to cry :( Still carried on and took dd2 to the zoo because it's cheap entry today, so I've probably made it worse :( Never mind though, we got to see a lovely baby giraffe :)

[PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom]

Ow!

[kickassangel]

So - Just Read a book called "Code Name Verity".
Set in WWII.

Two main characters - both female. Both strong, compassionate, brilliant, funny, just about everything you could want. One is a spy and one a pilot. They do come across the sexism of the time (particularly the pilot) and it's part of the plot, but not in any hand-wringing, woe is us, kind of way. It's just part of the plot.

I enjoyed reading it so much that not only did I read it in one evening (OK, I stayed up until 2!) but the whole 'oh, they're pioneering womenz' thought didn't even kick in as it's just a good book to read.

It was recommended by one of the teenagers I teach, and would be great for any reasonably mature, avid reader aged around 12-13 up. They need to be able to deal with a bit of death and torture, but there are no horrific drawn out gruesome bits.

I know it's a small triumph, but so good to see that it IS possible to read that kind of book, and that it engages teenagers. In fact, having chatted about it in school, both boys and girls enjoy reading it, just for the story.

[AKnickerfulOfMenace]

Sounds good, kickass!

[Dragonlette]

I'll definitely read that Kickass, it sounds great.

I've just finished a very disappointing sci-fi book called 3037, where the author doesn't seem to be able to envision a future that doesn't have very clear gender roles and women being the default parent, even in multiple versions of the future :( I wouldn't recommend it, although the basic plot is fairly reasonable.

[ifyourehoppyandyouknowit]

Oh hai, more wine pls.

I have been mostly channelling Angry Shouty Mum today (threenager), and spent the evening re-doing my CV and writing covering letter. Hate the whole process.

book sounds really good kickass, shall have a look out for it.

[caroldecker]

Death in paradise was always 3:1 until the male sergeant left at the end of the last series. 2:2 was only for a few episodes. A slight bit of good news is the female character has always been 2nd of 4 and not just a love interest.
Having said that, her attire is much more 'beach' than the men

[PetulaGordino]

That sounds good kickass. Will add it to my ever-expanding list of books for 2016 (2015 book moratorium here - sadly not likely to be effective as it's just deferring everything to next year!)

[WhatWouldFreddieDo]

Marking place in an empty pub ... (Helps self to pint). I have one of those annoying coughs that wakes you up at 2am, then DH has one of those annoying snores that won't let me get back to sleep .

Today I am mostly channeling the rage induced by that cock of a barrister - if it is for real it begs so many questions of the standard of our legal system and confirms all my worst suspicions about the privileged male that I feel like crawling under a duvet to hide - but then I'd just have to kick the snoring male beside me, which seems a little unfair, as he's one of the good guys.