What do men think feminists should be focusing their energies on?

[PetulaGordino]

It's pretty clear that there are many men with constructive criticism to offer feminists in terms of what feminist issues they should be focusing their energies, activism and outrage on.

This vital advice is at risk of being lost, spread as it is among myriad threads in this section. Perhaps it would be a good idea to collect it together into one thread, for ongoing reference when posters in this section consider their feminist activities and whether they are really focusing on the right issues.

Obviously it should be borne in mind that feminists are only able to focus strictly on one topic at a time in terms of activism and outrage, so don't overload us with too many issues at once!

Must admit I always saw bossy as an equal ops word - I think the campaign has come from the US where it's used much more girl specific and maybe usage is changing over here as well?

My friend calls her son bossy for eg and no-one raises an eyebrow. Which they would if she called him a bitch for eg (can't think of a less strong female only word!).

That's by the by though.

I know rufus and they're usually so willing and generous with their advice. Perhaps I should have worded my OP in a more man-friendly way? Clearly I need the advice more than anyone

So you call all women love, and you say there is a sexual component to that nickname.

Nice

Someone's going to react really badly to you one day in real life.

"I can absolutely guarantee that there are boys "bossing" your son...but he won't be calling them "bossy" as only girls have that term used against them"

I think you'll find men get called bossy too, pal.

I didn't call your son a liar though nice attempt to derail. I asked you for evidence (note that anecdote does not equal data) that boys need to have boy only spaces to learn, develop and grow. Ie:that girls being there hinders them

Men don't get called bossy.

Why would I call a man "love"? I'm not a homosexual

If you see it as a sexual term then wtf are you doing using it at all? Trying to get the 'creepy weirdo of the month' award at work?

There are boys only spaces.

Oh something that feminists ought to be doing is taking on and changing male dominated power structures in the world eg the armed forces and changing things to be better for men. Men can't do that themselves because you know, stuff.

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Scouts vs guides

I thought boys did better in mixed schools and girls in single sex?

Or is that research out of date now?

The evidence is my son. Who better to advise us oldies on what the youngsters want from cubs/brownies than the very boys who will be attending them?

Agree that men don't tend to get told bossy. Boys sometimes, men nope.

Women get called bossy all the time so actually maybe I will sign up for that campaign!

Still current SardineQueen which was the point that Majestic is trying to nicely swerve of course!

Except he won't be attending Brownies. And rightly so. For reasons that have been outlined already, because you're obviously too stupid to look them up.

"Why would I call a man "love"? I'm not a homosexual

If you see it as a sexual term then wtf are you doing using it at all? Trying to get the 'creepy weirdo of the month' award at work?"

Not everything is about sex Captain. A man might misinterpret my friendliness for me hitting on them.

So it is about sex then?

Make your mind up

Jeezus. Did you hit every branch of the stupid tree on the way down?

A man might misinterpret my friendliness for me hitting on them

So might a woman. Why does that not matter to you?

Gawd he's not very bright is he!

And 'my son says some girls are bossy' is not evidence that Girl Guiding should be opened up to boys.

Can we accuse him of homophobia now and see if he gets even more confused?