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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What do men think feminists should be focusing their energies on?

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PetulaGordino · 08/02/2015 21:31

It's pretty clear that there are many men with constructive criticism to offer feminists in terms of what feminist issues they should be focusing their energies, activism and outrage on.

This vital advice is at risk of being lost, spread as it is among myriad threads in this section. Perhaps it would be a good idea to collect it together into one thread, for ongoing reference when posters in this section consider their feminist activities and whether they are really focusing on the right issues.

Obviously it should be borne in mind that feminists are only able to focus strictly on one topic at a time in terms of activism and outrage, so don't overload us with too many issues at once!

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Magnetic1 · 08/02/2015 22:34

Petula, I'm sadly too busy to start such a group but it seemed a relevant thinking point for your fanciful question.

FarelyKnuts · 08/02/2015 22:34

"And where have your thoughts taken you Magnetic?
Does the concept of girls having their own space to learn, develop and grow bother you?"

Not in the slightest. My thoughts are that boys should have a space just for them as well though, like they used to... It's fair that they both should, no?

Of course, if it was needed. Is it needed? Do boys struggle in any way to do this when girls are present?

AnnieLobeseder · 08/02/2015 22:36

Ah, I came on here to sort out the Brownie/Cub question but I see you very competent women already have it in hand. I am always deeply unimpressed by how little research people bother putting in before they start ranting on these kids of issues.

So I shall limit my comments to a simple snort that the sarcasm of my post managed to sail so gracefully over Magnetic1's head.

SardineQueen · 08/02/2015 22:39

Getting on board with the trappings of femininity
Giggling and blushing when men talk to them

I would think.

PetulaGordino · 08/02/2015 22:39

NMP3 campaign - too trivial

Scouts vs guides - v important

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Magnetic1 · 08/02/2015 22:39

"Of course, if it was needed. Is it needed? Do boys struggle in any way to do this when girls are present?"

My son says the girls at school can be very bossy and that it sounds like it would've been more fun in my day when it was just for lads to get away from them. They don't much like girls at that age, a lot of them! Grin

PuffinsAreFictitious · 08/02/2015 22:41

Magnetic, as I said, go and find out why the Scouts begged for girls to join, and then get back to us, until then, shut up about it, because you're making yourself look even more stupid than the rest of your idiotic posts.

SardineQueen · 08/02/2015 22:42

lol excellent

WOMEN! You must go and start up all male children's groups
I would do it myself but, you know, I'm not going to

An excellent case in point Grin

CaptainHolt · 08/02/2015 22:42

Things involving BME people or people far away (FGM, CSE by 'the Pakistani community)

Things that affect men (paternity 'rights', feeling left out of being pg, anything that makes women not sexually available ALL THE TIME, false rape allegations. I shall add girl guiding to the list Hmm)

Things which women should definitely not focus their energies on - Page 3, rape, sexual assault, the gender pay gap, everyday sexism, 'banter', sexism in sport and anything else that is 'trivial' or 'gives feminism a bad name'.

FarelyKnuts · 08/02/2015 22:42

That's your compelling argument Magnetic? Seriously? An anecdote from your son? Hmm
Wow.

AnnieLobeseder · 08/02/2015 22:43

Come on, someone do the picture, please!!!

Magnetic1 · 08/02/2015 22:43

Can you provide a link please, love? I couldn't find much of note.

PetulaGordino · 08/02/2015 22:45

this thread is precisely for men to share their manly views and educate feminists

So far I don't feel they are taking much advantage of this opportunity

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 08/02/2015 22:45

Tough shit then. It's not hard to find out, but if you can't be arsed, then you don't get to whine like a child about it anymore.

FarelyKnuts · 08/02/2015 22:45

This one?

What do men think feminists should be focusing their energies on?
SardineQueen · 08/02/2015 22:45

YY CaptainHolt

Things that are happening over there

PuffinsAreFictitious · 08/02/2015 22:45

This one Annie?

I don't think the views are particularly manly though, just sounds like a whining child to me.

What do men think feminists should be focusing their energies on?
AnnieLobeseder · 08/02/2015 22:45

"love"?

CaptainHolt · 08/02/2015 22:46

Can you provide a link please, love? I couldn't find much of note.

Grin

Come on, love, the busy man is waiting!

SardineQueen · 08/02/2015 22:46

No no farley be fair.

A story like that from a man isn't an anecdote, it's evidence.

PetulaGordino · 08/02/2015 22:46

This thread is for manly views. Don't put em off with the picture

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SardineQueen · 08/02/2015 22:48

The fundamental point I guess that certain men think feminists should be doing around issues affecting women and girls around the world

Is not worrying our pretty little heads about it

Magnetic1 · 08/02/2015 22:48

"Love?

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It's a term of endearment. Puffins, it's up to you to provide proof to the contrary or evidence that there's good reasons for it. That is how a debate works.

SardineQueen · 08/02/2015 22:48

Oh hold on

Making sandwiches and giving blow jobs has come up a few times too.

SardineQueen · 08/02/2015 22:51

Puffins HA he has totally thwarted you there with his clever manly words

Go and sit in the corner until you can come up with evidence that is acceptable. Word of caution though - anything said by women or children is unreliable and inadmissible.