Feminist Pub 17: The Bluestocking frolics in the fells and fens of feminism

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This is the 17th incarnation of the Feminist Pub!

Here be goats, cannons and chat on feminism and related themes. Also snacks. And booze, copious booze.

Welcome!

I'm tired ... Too much talking to too many people on too few topics. Need a day off.

I think the pub needs a nap room. Where we can hide from the world rest a bit. I could do with a nap. I have sooooo much to do by tomorrow and I've spent all week trying to get people who don't report directly to me to do things, which is tiring.

Rant of the evening. The DDs are getting their hair cut tomorrow. If you Google "Short hair for girls", all the pictures are of adult women. You have to modify the search to "short hair for young girls" to get children.

What's the bet if I searches "short hair for boys" there wouldn't be many men turning up?

I stand corrected. I did Google "short hair for boys" and they were indeed mostly men.

Weird.

Annie strangely enough I googled long hair for boys to look for possible hair cuts for DS... and then the barber went and cut it too short. DS was not impressed.

Max Clifford arrested again.

m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31861567

Can I just have a boast? I never do this in RL. Each year school do a standardized test on students and we got the results through today. dD did incredibly well. She's also doing better at school this year. She's on the spectrum and can sometimes really struggle with keeping her act together in school, but shes just done so well, it's great to be able to give her some good news as she gives herself a really hard time and hates herself when she messes up.

Otoh she didn't do piano practice or her English homework tonight as I went out and she forgot.

Will now read about Max Clifford and gloat.

Boasting and gloating in one post, I'm such a bitch.

Well done mini kickass!

Yay, kickass. And well done to your DD.

Bravo to her, kickass!

What are smart casual clothes for boys!? Would jeans do, with a shirt? Help!!!

I don't have a boy, but I'd have thought 'smart casual' would be more chino-ish type trousers than jeans - though some jeans are pretty smart. Nice jumper and/or jacket depending on what its for?

I've got a similar dilemma for my DD - she's doing an Arkwright scholarship interview in the Easter hols. The dress code is 'no jeans' - but trousers for all as there's some practical sessions and they may be crawling around on the floor. But the only trousers she owns, or can contemplate owning are jeans! Her 'going out' trousers are black skinnies - do you think they'd be OK?

It's for a concert. They say NOT black and white but "smart/evening dress". That means no jeans I suppose. We don't have anything else!! I'm going to coerce him into buying a shirt. Maybe a non-black/white shirt + school trousers? But all our school trousers are patched. I feel a bit substandard ...

We haven't got nice jumpers either!! Maybe he can wear my uniqlo grey jumper.

Morning all.

I thought that since I have a) done a feministy thing this week and b) drunk my own body-volume in champagne at the MN birthday bash, that my natural home would be in the feminists pub.

Hello Heckler!

Do you also know about what smart clothes a boy should have? More to the point, can you persuade him to buy and wear them?

How old? M&S was always our go to place for this type of thing. Chinos/slacks (did I just type slacks?) With a shirt/ jumper.

That's weird, smart and evening are two different things. I'd say smart jeans and shirt are fine for 'smart' wear, but not for evening. Ring and check? If they want him to be correctly dressed they won't mind.

Had a look at pictures of past concerts. Girls in nice but not OTT dresses and cardis, boys in jeans and shirts. So more "smart" than "evening", maybe.

I don't know such things! They never told me when I came here!

i find the American thing of getting dressed up hard to get right, particularly as dd just wants jeans and keeps growing so her best clothes from Sep do not fit her at all.

Ds1 now proud owner of smartish shirt. He said he might even wear it.

We are a scruffy family.

Does anyone have any studies or articles about "career women" who put off having children til later and then find they can't/ split with partners and then can't find new stable relationships in time to have children. I'm particularly interested in knowing what proportion made the decision to leave it late themselves and what proportion had that decision made for them by their partner dragging their heels. I'm having a discussion with dp (it started as a conversation about a friend of mine who has just split up with her long term boyfriend) I walked away from the conversation when he rolled his eyes at me for saying that these "career women" are a lot less common than he thinks, the only women I know who could be considered "career women" who still want children, actually wanted their children years earlier than their male partners.

Not what you're looking for Dragon, but as a slight tangent it's interesting that this says that educated (career) women lose the most economically by having kids early. Which is not about putting career first but about making sensible economic choices and better providing for their families.