Feminist Pub 15: The Bluestocking hangs up its, err, stocking and hopes for a chatty Christmas and a Feminist New Year

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Festive greetings!

This is the 15th incarnation of the Pub and is meant as a place to drop by with random thoughts and meandering chats, on feminist or other related themes. Anything you want to mull over but not necessarily start a thread about. Alternatively, get some booze and snacks and hang out! Lurkers, newbies and oldbies welcome.

We have a pub goat, a feminist cannon for firing at crazy sexists and we cheer each other up when patriarchy grinds us down...

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Pub 14

Women in IT are just spread so thin.

Which is why we all end up here on FWR... I find it difficult to think that you wouldn't end up feminist after a few years of working in IT. (I started that way, before I left school.)

I've heard people say that before, but apart from the over-enthusiasm when down the pub with the stereotypical geek guys who don't get to talk to many women (NAITMALT) I would say that the blokes in IT more readily have assessed me on my skills than non-techies (traders, business people etc.) - perhaps I've just been lucky and not worked in any laddish departments. Either that or because I have a foreign name I'm pre-filtered out by the bigots before I get to interview stage..

DP's in the industry, and the least biased interviewer I know (he's unbelievably tough on everyone) - although he has his own problems in that he makes light of me complaining about sexist things we encounter and then wonders why I get cross with him.

York sounds good to me. I haven't been to York for years.

I'm not in IT, although my degree was in Computing. I had a female friend at uni who went on to work in IT and she did NOT become a feminist, in fact, after 5 years of working in IT as the only woman in her company, she "found God", decided that women really aren't cut out for working, and gave up her career in order to "do God's work" which appears from the outside to be cooking and cleaning for her husband, obeying his every whim, and having as many children as possible. I've been a Christian all my life and have never met anyone with such restrictive and oppressive views as she's developed. We aren't friends anymore, which is sad because we had some fabulous times over the years before she "found God".

Ugh, don't get me started on traders. I "had" one that every time I went to speak to him (because we lowly IT people go to them, not the other way around) he'd give me the eyes-down-and-up one-over. Every single time.

I'm not in academia or IT.

I like York. Even if it is far away!

I'm down south but York is a direct train for me

I'm not an academic but work in HE and academia as of a couple of months ago. Before that I was in a related (for-profit) industry that is also strongly linked to IT, though it's not my area either

Ooh, three Southerners. Three is enough for a y'all, right?

I'm in London but can take a train.

Is everything at your institution about the REF today buffster?

research excellence framework www.ref.ac.uk/, it replaced the RAE

haha - i didn't get that at all as i missed the nose growing bit!

i was resisting asking what kind of strange breed of uk academic you must be not to have heard of it!

it's the same as anything that is measured - if it is measured it is important, and anything else falls by the wayside

just want to highlight this one which is sort of local to me. hopefully they will get their charity commission registration shortly

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-30528765