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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A list of the sex acts banned today in the UK porn industry.

203 replies

ClawHandsIfYouBelieveInFreaks · 02/12/2014 19:11

Spanking

Caning

Aggressive whipping

Penetration by any object "associated with violence"

Physical or verbal abuse (regardless of if consensual)

Urolagnia (known as "water sports")

Female ejaculation

Strangulation

Facesitting

Fisting

A link to the article in The Independent which explains more.

The newspaper claims that the "measures seem to take aim at female pleasure" and that they're "arbitrary" choices to make....I'm not sure what part of the list other than female ejaculation is synonymous with female pleasure though!

The writer is scathing about the bans.

Although veiwers in the UK will be able to continue to watch pornography including the above, it will no longer be legal to make such films here.

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GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 20:53

amethyst One of my friends can apparently do it but it's not every time (we've had this discussion at great length over wine). She says it feels like she is going to pee!

I've looked into it and - again - apparently it's small glands? But then again surely these would have been documented more by now.

Amethyst24 · 02/12/2014 21:04

Grey I read about it quite extensively a while ago (can't remember why - it's never happened to me!) and from what I can gather the ejaculate is sometimes expelled from the urethra and sometimes from the vagina, which suggests that there are different things going on for different women. I guess in the case of porn it's a balance of probability thing - if you're making a female ejaculation movie, you're going to have to be able to do it reliably, and weeing on demand is more likely to happen that whatever the mysterious vaginal ejaculation thing is. So no urination in porn = no depiction of female ejaculation.

I don't watch porn but the one change in the law I'd like to see would be mandatory condom use because that would rain on their parade good and proper .

GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 21:07

I've read those as well amethyst (i too went on the research and I haven't got a clue why) I tried to explain the vaginal one by saying the muscle spasms could sort of erm.. shoot out the natural lubricant we have causing the effect of ejaculation Confused

Then read about 2 glands either side of the urethra and was even more confused.

It shall remain a mystery to me I think

AWholeLottaNosy · 02/12/2014 21:09

I think they should have banned that act where a man shoves his cock so far down a woman's throat she is bringing up bile/vomiting.

Or what about double anal penetration?

Stoopid list.

SolidGoldBrass · 02/12/2014 21:11

There are a lot of women - and feminists - objecting to this list.
Here's one explaining it pretty clearly.
And here's another making similar points.
Women involved in making feminist/ethical porn have been concerned for a while that increased censorship is going to target everything but the sort of porn that straight men enjoy. EG (repeating a point from one of the articles) women being made to gag on a penis is still acceptable, but anyone throwing up who appears to be enjoying it is not acceptable.

RufusTheReindeer · 02/12/2014 21:13

I think banning those things does sound like a good idea but I am a bit Confused at the quote saying it's "taking aim at female pleasure"

With the obvious exeption of face sitting (I suppose) and female ejectulation

For what's it's worth, I ejectulate and I know when it's going to happen (certain position) and I think it's from my woo....DH doesn't know either but he is looking a bit puzzled as to why I asked

RufusTheReindeer · 02/12/2014 21:13

Oooh I don't feel like I need to wee

GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 21:15

Thanks for those SGB, will have a read now

Rufus am I terrible for wondering what the position is? Blush

Amethyst24 · 02/12/2014 21:19

But women LUUURVE being double penetrated anally, as any fule kno Confused

Does double anal happen a lot in gay male porn? Could be there would be a massive fuss from that quarter if it were banned, and you can't ban it being done to women but allow it to be done to men.

RufusTheReindeer · 02/12/2014 21:20

grays

Grin

No it's not really rude, it's when I am kneeling up.

It's absolutely guaranteed to happen, but I'm not really keen on doing it as it makes such a mess....now that's too much information Blush

GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 21:23
Grin

Thankyou for sharing, I actually find it really interesting because it's so little documented (and as you may be able to tell from my username I'm interested in Anatomy) Grin sorry if anyone else thinks it's TMI it's my nosyness.

SevenZarkSeven · 02/12/2014 21:25

This thread is increasingly fascinating Grin

I'm not sure about the list at all. I think that trying to ban acts without looking at context will probably miss the point. Whatever the point is. Have they said what the point is?

Amethyst24 · 02/12/2014 21:27

Kneeling up you say? Grin

GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 21:27

I would like to know who sat there and decided what needed to be banned, how many women were perhaps involved in that decision.

GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 21:28

I hope those aren't your best towels amethyst!

apotatoprintinapeartree · 02/12/2014 21:28

Ah, they're all the best bits.

Amethyst24 · 02/12/2014 21:32

They will be the guest towels Grey

I have a friend who works for the BBFC, I shall ask her if she was in the meeting Grin

Amethyst24 · 02/12/2014 21:32

Gray, sorry Blush

BuffytheFestiveFeminist · 02/12/2014 21:33

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AWholeLottaNosy · 02/12/2014 21:37

SGB just read that first article you linked. Totally agree with it. It also seems that the BDSM community are particularly being targeted by this list. Why? Anyone who knows anything about BDSM knows that it is consensual and respectful ( unlike some of the other acts mentioned that haven't been banned). Just WHO came up with this list???

BuffytheFestiveFeminist · 02/12/2014 21:42

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GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 21:42

I'm not sure why the BDSM community would feel targeted because surely what they do in their own homes - consensual, safe, and happy - is completely different from what's being portrayed on screen? And obviously they already know that some of what they do is seen as taboo and in the wrong light, potentially abusive?

Interested to hear opinions and be put straight by the way, I obviously can't sympathise with that community because I'm only into it lightly.

Amethyst24 · 02/12/2014 21:43

Buffy that's why I wondered about double penetration in gay male porn.

I'm puzzled by this too, although I think a lot of it does make sense. I can imagine that if you're into BDSM it would be objectionable - but so would it be if you were into watersports/fisting.

For me, face-sitting is the odd one - surely that's shown a lot in lesbian porn? Or not?

GraysAnalogy · 02/12/2014 21:46

I can imagine face sitting is objected to because of suffocation issues? But obviously they're doing it wrong then...

Otherwise I don't see the problem

Amethyst24 · 02/12/2014 21:46

And why is spanking not okay but non-aggressive whipping (by implication) is fine? What is non-aggressive whipping anyway?

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