37 year old man here

[BlueStahli]

Hello,

I'm a 37 year old male, married, with two children--a boy and a girl.

I've always had an issue with sexism. But only recently have I been delving headlong into it. I've been researching facts and studies, talking to people, getting opinions, and voicing my own views. In the process, I stumbled across this site. So I joined. I hope to learn much here. Needless to say, I'll be spending most of my time hanging out in the feminism forum.

My reasons for being here are three-fold:

1. I want facts! I want to know how sexism and discrimination have been measured/studied scientifically and what results have been found. I want to know what kinds of government policies and human rights have been instated (or removed) and where in the world this has happened. I'm tired of anecdotal stories and questioning how biased people's claims are and I feel I'm ready to take a position on more secure grounds--but I need to build those grounds first.

2. I feel I can contribute much to feminism by offering a man's perspective. I wear my heart of my sleeve and I'm not afraid to reveal personal information. But I also feel that if I'm going to give my perspective on certain issues, I'm going to have to earn the right to do it first (so you won't get it in my first post :)). I'm confident that I can do this in a constructive/non-offensive way, and if I ever do step out of line (never advertently), I'm open to being corrected. Ultimately, I feel that if two groups are trying to settle their differences, there's no better way than to hear the perspectives on both sides.

3. I've got issues! :) I really do! Like I said, I've always had issues with sexism, and lately I've been on a self-induced "therapy kick". I've been forcing myself to "get over it". Diving into the issue with other peopleother womenis how I'm doing it. I don't think I'll ever be "cured" of my issues, but if I'm going to be stuck with them, I figure I might as well have them for the right reasons (i.e. educating myself--as in #1 above).

So that's my spiel.

So first order of business: I'd like to ask if there are any males on this forum--particularly ones that frequent the feminism forum. I'd like to ask their advice on how a man conducts himself on a forum devote to moms and feminism.

Thanks :)

a few years ago, dp's aunt had a catering company. for some reason she had a staffing crisis before an event and dp's dad did her (his sister) a favour by helping out as a waiter, circulating with drinks and nibbles.

he was horrified by how people treated him, in his guise as a middle-aged male waiter, apparently the ultimate failure going by the way some attendees talked to him. he is a company director and used to being on the other side of the tray of drinks iyswim. and he would never treat waiting staff like that himself, so he had never previously imagined that anyone else would

Maybe we should ask MN to change the title to "37 year old man scarpered".

Just a suggestion.

Such an odd title anyway. Why the need to say he's 37? I'm flummoxed as to how that should affect my view of the OP.

Did he ever come back?

Or did he write his essay, and disappear back under his floorboard?

Essay? What essay? What could he have accomplished? particularly as you harridans refused to give him scientific facts and figures

Perhaps he heeded the wise words and name-changed. Preferably not to the rape-myth spreader.

Flora it's so our imaginations would be dazzled by his youthful, yet respectable man-form which is so irresistible to us wimmins. Or something.

youthful? pah, he's old enough to be my... well, my older brother realistically

wanta maybe he read somewhere that 37 is the prime age for male attractiveness to wimmins (or summat) and thought we'd all be breathlessly hanging off his every word.

I think falafel had it with ref. to a Mens Group. Quite a fanfare, but not really up for it. IF I read his (falafel's) post correctly.

I would guess OP is banned.

All those smiley faces he posted and you horrible people didn't roll out the red carpet for him

Well I, for one, am glad that 37 year old man started this thread before buggering off. Otherwise we wouldn't have two of the best FWR soundbites of all time:

"Take it like a man" is the voice of the patriarchy by Conspiracy

and

Ah objectivity. The subjectivity of the dominant position by Buffy.

I love them so much I want to rush off and make car window stickers out of them, emblazon them on t-shirts, mugs, everywhere!

All those smiley faces he posted and you horrible people didn't roll out the red carpet for him

This is such an entitled-man thing to say. Why don't you come back and comment when there are more people around? Do you not have the strength of your convictions? How cowardly.

yes it's 'entitled' and 'de-railing' and, and lots of those other words we like to use round here.

We know how silly and predictable you think most regulars here are pan, don't worry

So are you another of those misogynist/MRA types who wasn't loved enough by their mother? Are you looking for one of us to say "There, there mummy still wuvs you, no matter what you do" (???). Wouldn't you be better off finding a really good psychologist to talk about your issues with, rather than trying to constantly trying to get your misguided attention here?

By the way, you are not one of 'we'.

I'm confused I thought vree was being sarcastic. Or have I missed something?

I thought vree was being sarcastic too

I don't think so, if you check vree's posting history, there are only 2 posts under FWR. I am always a bit suspicious of people who either have a new name/change names just to post here. If you are a regular poster on MN, you will have loads of posts in other places. Those posters deserve the benefit of the doubt.

We know how silly and predictable you think most regulars here are pan, don't worry ODFOD

thought vree was being highly sarcastic too. Perhaps not.

It's how you come across. If you don't like that, think about your posting style. If you don't care, carry on

Thank you for that permission PG.