Minor male entitlements

[kentishgirl]

It's not just the big things, it's the little things that are in some way more irritating to me.

Just got out of the dentist. It's a small practise and I guess the receptionist is off sick as the reception desk still had shutters down, so they were a little bit late opening up. One woman was sitting in waiting room when I arrived. A man came in a little after me.

The dentist came out and opened up the desk.

Guess who quickly jumped up and got there to be dealt with first?

More gin

yes, Buffy a strange and detached perspective..tbh I don't want to 'win' anything with you - it's you that quotes the scorecard etc, so own that bit?....am still admiring your ability to distance yourself from the contents of your posts.

Performance Review - " earnest, but needs better self-reflection". Happy?

night.

OK!

For the edification of timid readers and Larry
Assertive bar skills:

1. Cash or card in hand
2. Slither through first two rows
3. Push through first row, elbowing elbows on both sides
4. Elbows on bar - preferably both - money held at shoulder height
5. Take stock of customers already waiting
6. As soon as someone (99% sure to be male) demands early service, shout out who was next
7. Loudly order as soon as next person's been served

Blokes don't have to learn this rigmarole, do they? They just know they'll get served before Bland's died of gin deficiency.

Toilets.

Men's are always worse than women's (based on the smell from outside the doors and glimpses when doors are open of both in public places). I can't decide on the most likely cause. Perhaps it's:

A) Men piss on the floor more because they piss standing up (why?) which is messier and then don't clean it up (because?)
B) Men and women piss equally on the floor but women are more likely to clean up after themselves (because?)
C) Men's toilets are inferior to women's toilets at containing piss
D) I have a female brain that enables me to notice men's piss more than women's (which, while probably making me and all other women more suitable to be a cleaner of toilets, means my experiences should be discounted)

Tip to deal with the splayed leg sitters when they encroach on your leg space. Cross legs, make sure you are engrossed in book/newspaper, swing the top leg back and forth making sure you rap the encroacher's calf somewhere between the back of the knee and halfway down at each swing. Repeat as necessary to achieve desired result i.e. encroacher retreats to own seating boundaries.

This thread is the perfect example of why this thread was started.

I was fairly chilled when I started reading this but now I'm feeling really angry.

I know I'm new to FWR and I know it's easier to say than do, but can I possibly suggest some kind of collective ignoring policy?
There's no point engaging with people who both derail threads and also don't seem to be ingenuous in their posting.

This thread would have been so much more interesting if it hadn't been derailed by a couple of people.

oh FFS. In so many posts Buffy you are being really deliberately dishonest. Which is quite a serious thing to say. e.g I never said the topic/whole thing was boring or trivial. I said that you were being boring with a clockwork-type response to anything I say. And no, you don;t stand by your posts - you are kidding yourself there. Your dots just don't add up. I don't know who is inside of BuffyBubble to say this stuff to you in RL, but whoever it is isn't doing a good job.

Minor male entitlements: when organising a family trip out, it is a rare family indeed where the husband/male who proactively packs all the things the kids will need. DH is great, but would be utterly befuddled if we reached somewhere and there were no nappies/jumpers/wipes, unless he had been specifically asked to pack them.

I'll leave you to it.

Buffy hasn't been dishonest, Pan. She's repeatedly highlighted that "the whole premise of the thread has been: these little entitlements that men have that take from women, and that men don't even realise that they are taking anything" - and that your responses have illustrated this very point by requiring her to frame her views in a manner you find acceptable.

In expecting you to understand this without having it explicitly clarified, maybe she over-estimated you?

Making an obvious comment here, most men I know could come up with at least one "irritating thing men do from unthinking entitlement", instead of barging into the discussion with clear intent to demolish it.

buffy

I very much value your posts and don't recognise the description given of you in pans recent posts

Really? Ok. I feel the opposite. Pandering to this what-aboutery inhibits real discussion in my view. But good luck with fighting the good fight. It's a fight I've given up with online (spent plenty of time trying it in other places) because I find it depressing, energy sapping stuff which doesn't actually achieve anything because the people you're arguing with aren't in the market for a change of view.

Anyway, not meaning to snipe. Strength to your arm.

That was to the glorious Buffy btw.

it is very reassuring to see that someone else understands

I'm shocked and saddened that you don't take this for granted! You've been very clear :)