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Why are feminists so threatened by the MRA movement?

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LaVoixDeLaRaison · 09/09/2014 18:47

When I was at university, the Gender Equality society (of which I was a member) chose to rename itself the Feminist society, arguing that the only way equality could be achieved was by focusing on women's issues. This led some other students to set up an MRA group, which was met with some resistance from the feminists. On this very board I see commenters angrily referring to MRAs as if they are all members of an evil homogeneous group.

Isn't it possible that men and women both suffer oppression from society in different ways? That the levels of this oppression are not necessarily equal, but are still important if we are to achieve equality? I often see feminists agreeing with certain 'male issues' (e.g. media stereotypes, elevated male suicide rate), but suggesting that feminism has other priorities, and if they want to do something about these issues then they should make their own groups. Why do they get criticized when they do exactly that? Better still, wouldn't feminism be better off if it didn't alienate so many men (and women, focused on a wider range of issues, and stopped pitting the sexes against one another?

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Zazzles007 · 10/09/2014 15:21

Were you not talking about the MRASubreddit page Hakluyt? If not, my mistake.

AnnieLobeseder · 10/09/2014 15:23

Our friend has got himself stuck over in Reddit, saying he can't access his MN account any more. I doubt MN have banned him just for being a bit goady?

AnnieLobeseder · 10/09/2014 15:23

It's probably Buffy's fault. Grin

GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt · 10/09/2014 15:25

It is dull. And repetitious.
Wonder what forum will "raid" this board next.

CaptChaos · 10/09/2014 15:25

Aye. I doubt he has been booted from here in any way other than the one which gets angry men to pile over here to threaten the wimmins

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 15:29

hakluyt my reading of zazzles' comment was that the fact you have been banned is testament to the fact that you are rational and reasonable and they can't handle it

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 15:30

and given that teh OP is now all over being banned (if that is what has happened) and attributes this to the irrationality of feminists, i wonder what that says about teh MRAsubreddit if they ban feminists?

Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 15:32

If Mumsnet have banned him I would be very pissed off indeed........

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 15:33

they would usually announce or let the poster know by email i think

GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt · 10/09/2014 15:33

I note that he claims that on this thread, MRAs have been labelled as "impossible to have a proper debate with"

Deep, deep irony.

PenguinsIsSleepDeprived · 10/09/2014 15:35

Maybe he just forgot his passwordGrin

Zazzles007 · 10/09/2014 15:38

Do MRA's have a list of wanky words that they have to have in their posts to justify their faux intellectualism? Is it all just a big pissing up contest using words instead of, ya' know, piss?

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/09/2014 15:41

Is it just me or is reddit really hard to follow anyway. Its not a conversation it's just a series of posts competing to see who gets the most likes?

A pissing contest, if you will.

GilbertBlytheWouldGetIt · 10/09/2014 15:42

I am almost certain most of them only read their own posts, and skim over any responses looking for statements to which they can compose farticulate answers.

Zazzles007 · 10/09/2014 15:43

Ah Hoppy, there is a linky thing on the top left hand side of the page which is set to 'best' comment. Change it to 'old', and it will list the posts in chronological order.

Hakluyt · 10/09/2014 15:44

I'm trying to remember exactly what I was banned for. I know I suggested that, while male infant circumcision was objectionable, it wasn't usually as damaging as FGM. I said that is thought that it was unfortunate that men don't have the ultimate right to decide whether they have a baby, they do have a choice about whether they have sex or use contraception. And several other perfectly mainstream points of view. I was polite and non confrontational. But banned.

Bifauxnen · 10/09/2014 15:45

They do love an offensive portmanteau. "Femtard" "libtard" "mangina", you get the idea.
Portmanteau s should only be moulded in the name of goodness, imo.
I love the word 'portmanteau' Grin

BriarRainbowshimmer · 10/09/2014 15:45

Surely OP's name is a parody of trite MRAs

Zazzles007 · 10/09/2014 15:46

Oh, not at the top, the linky, drop down thingy is just above the first posted reply

manlyalmondcakes · 10/09/2014 15:46

I agree with the OP about women not having an interest in the problem of war. Feminists lack of interest in this area is a disgrace and the main reason so many wars happen leading to the conscription of so many young men.

If feminists care about war, why haven't they do something about it to show their opposition? Perhaps they could congregate around some kind of major military installation for nineteen years, maybe seventy thousand feminists at a time. Granted, that would involve a serious risk of hardship, police harassment and arrest, but if feminists really cared about serious issues like war, surely they would have done something about it?

And feminism has always been like that. Why did none of the suffragettes ever, just for example here, oppose colonialism in Ethiopia, start a newspaper about it, get monitored by the British government, move to Ethiopia to support health care for people there, and be given a state funeral by Haile Selassie? It is as if they are only ever bothered about their own problems.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 10/09/2014 15:46

I don't think I care enough to read anymore. I got to a post about acting as a humane shield, in a gallant way, but then went on to say how he was upset that he loses bodily autonomy once he gets someone pregnant and wants to be able to opt out and I lost the will to invest more of my time in that drivel.

PetulaGordino · 10/09/2014 15:46

no surprise that disablism goes hand in hand really

CaptChaos · 10/09/2014 15:52

Apparently MN is a sex segregationist forum. So, if by parents for parents = sex segregationism does that mean that the man who state that doesn't think men are parents?

Bifauxnen · 10/09/2014 15:57

Davidbyron lives in his own world. He's a very bizarre individual.

Zazzles007 · 10/09/2014 15:57

I know CaptChaos, but that ties in the argument that if a man impregnates a woman (what about just had sex with her?) and feels he wouldn't be a suitable parent, then he should "have the option of opting out of parenting".

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