Feminist Pub IX. Newbies and regulars welcome - pop your cognitive dissonance down outside and have a gin.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

Right, thought I'd better start a new pub. I warn you, my knowledge of Roman numerals conks out shortly after this one, so either buffy will have to start the next thread, or we'll have to go Arabic.

Everyone is welcome in - if you want to chat, or just jump in with a question/link/gin, please do. Especially if it's too small for a thread or you don't feel up to thread-starting.

The old thread has, at my count, about 9 posts to go, and it was here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2126791-Feminist-Pub-VIII-not-as-prolific-as-the-Swaggerers-but-there-are-cushions-and-consciousness?

We were just chatting about feministy light reading, and will doubtless meander onto other topics shortly.

Yup!

It's really boring ...

It is rather trying!

just quickly on easier books - i'm rereading terry pratchett "equal rites"

The rape thread is doing my head in now. The more I enter into these discussions, the more I wonder whether people just actually want to believe that rape won't happen to them, or won't happen to their daughters, because they will follow the 'right' behaviours and so they will be ok.

I honestly don't understand why there is so much resistance to understanding the (not that) subtle difference between "don't get mega drunk, bad things might happen" and "Avoid rape by not drinking".

I tend to find that there is a particular poster who, once she's joined the conversation bogs it down in such pathetically tiny points that's it's just not worth the effort of posting anymore. She's on the rape thread, is desperate to get my attention again, so I'm out. Rape apologists just piss me off.

Robert Webb writes about feminism from a male perspective. Obviously it's not a precise analysis of the subject, but it appears he gets why it's still needed.

A quick question: am I the only male regular in the pub?

I think Derval pops in for a sweet sherry every so often, Doctor.

Ooh, I didn't know you were a bloke, Dr. I'm quite proud of myself for not assuming Dr=male.

I knew you were a man Dr. But only because you said something sex specific on a thread a while back. Can't remember what it was. I am honestly not sure, other than Dervel. We could all be men...

Actually, that isn't true. A lot of you have met each other IRL haven't you.

I knew DoctorTwo is a man because he said so some time ago when he said something about something. (Pretty specific, eh? )

Is Penguin a man? Association with male penguins etc etc.

I could be a man, being Lord Copper and all that.

I think my posting history shows a real commitment to covering my male identity if so, what with all the moaning about late pregnancy, etc, etc.

Yes, I had sorta got penguins figured out as a man. Though, don't daddy Emperor penguins do the childcare, including hatching out the eggs?

yes it's the male penguin that hatches the egg isn't it?

Mmm. I think petula and I have seen through your little conspiracy here ...

Yeah, Penguin is a ma-an! Penguin is a ma-an!

Right. I shall stop being silly and make small people saw various stringed instruments in order to torture the neighbours' eardrums.

Sisters, we're gonna need a whole VAT of marmalade!

Enjoy, lordC.

marmalade?!

If we eat boy babies with marmalade, I'm pretty sure we should eat male pub dwellers with the Orange Jam too...

i don't like marmalade

like babies though (individually)

But it's for the sisterhood Petula!

What if I bake it into a chocolate orange cake?

Mmm, baked marmalade. And chocolate orange cake. Can we have more men on the threads please?

I think I've missed the point, haven't I?

blandy consider it my sacrifice in the name of bringing down the patriarchy

i had an argument with the mother of my french exchange partner when i was younger. she said it wasn't possible for a british person not to like marmalade

I have a recipe for marmalade flapjack.