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AmnestyInternational Prostitution

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JuliaScurr · 13/04/2014 11:57

Please tweet #Amnesty agm in support of Nordic Model
Pimps out in force

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WhentheRed · 16/04/2014 16:37

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migsymoo · 16/04/2014 16:39

5 and 10 men a week does sound a bit low tbh. If that was a daily amount I might be able to believe it.

teyitemp · 16/04/2014 16:40

"prostituted women"

A term I haven't actually heard any sex worker use (with the single and only exception of rachel moran).

I've only heard the term used by non-prostitutes and nordic-model supporters.

teyitemp · 16/04/2014 16:41

migsymoo do you have a preference what term you prefer? Prostitute? Sex worker? Prostituted woman? Other?

Grennie · 16/04/2014 16:42

migsymoo - Please avoid teyitemp. He is almost certainly a pimp.

teyitemp · 16/04/2014 16:45

I think it should be up to migsymoo who she speaks to or avoids.

I'm not a pimp, but that word is thrown around so often these days it has almost lost all meaning. I've seen sexworkers on other sites accused of being pimps just for supporting Amnesty or speaking out against the nordic model.

Grennie · 16/04/2014 16:47

What are you teyitemp then?

And I have been around long enough to notice when someone objectionable is moving in on a vulnerable woman.

CaptChaos · 16/04/2014 16:47

Please be careful Migsy, remember the other poster who PMd you when you spoke out to abuse you? He has a vested interest in keeping you and other women like you selling yourself.

Grennie · 16/04/2014 16:48

Migsymoo - Are there any projects where you live that can support you and help you get out?

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FloraFox · 16/04/2014 16:48

So actually they would need to have sex with six men to avoid losing money.

The thing about Rachel Moran is that "I didn't see her " is not good evidence that someone wasn't at a particular place 20 years ago in the middle of the night. Good evidence would be "I worked at McDonald's / shared a flat with Rachel Moran 20 years ago and she wasn't as she described herself". Given that she's very high profile, someone would pop up to say this if she were lying.

Pimps and punters are stupid though so it's not surprising they can't get their minds around that. It's the same stupid thinking that a transwoman lying about prostitution in another country for another reason is in any way relevant. Swearing an affidavit does not turn bad evidence into good evidence.

FloraFox · 16/04/2014 16:50

No he is a pimp he just wants to call it something else.

teyitemp · 16/04/2014 16:51

""I didn't see her " is not good evidence"

Considering it was on the same street for 2 years I think it is good evidence.

And there's more to it than just not seeing her.

Grennie · 16/04/2014 16:52

I agree Flora. If Rachel Moran was lying, she would have lived and worked somewhere. And people would have known her and could have proved she was lying.

This is what has happened when people in the public eye have lied about their lives. Someone pops up and says, I shared a flat with them and they were actually ....

I totally believe Rachel Moran.

teyitemp · 16/04/2014 16:52

"he is a pimp"

Are you going to present evidence to back up your accusation? And "he doesn't support the nordic model!!!" doesn't count as evidence.

Grennie · 16/04/2014 16:52

teyitemp - Are you a "manager" aka pimp?

Grennie · 16/04/2014 16:55

And teyitemp - People keep making accusations because you keep refusing to say what your connection to the sex industry is.

WhentheRed · 16/04/2014 16:57

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teyitemp · 16/04/2014 16:57

Are you making the assumption the only people against the nordic model are pimps?

teyitemp · 16/04/2014 16:58

If you are accusing me of something which is illegal under all UK jurisdictions then I'd love to hear your evidence.

Grennie · 16/04/2014 16:59

Maybe you should just answer the questions we have asked about you?

CaptChaos · 16/04/2014 17:00

Tadah! The logical fallacies begin.

If only they were even slightly original.

Ah well, back to life Smile

teyitemp · 16/04/2014 17:00

"I totally believe Rachel Moran."

I don't. I totally believe Gaye Dalton and all the other sexworkers who don't believe rachel moran.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 16/04/2014 17:00

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WhentheRed · 16/04/2014 17:01

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