So many evil men...can't stand it

[SplitHeadGirl]

First of all, I know fully well that men will get upset at what I think and am about to say, so I would like to clarify that I am talking about EVIL men, not the good, wonderful dads and granddads and husbands and nice single blokes out there....the ones who I KNOW (my brain, not my gut, tells me so) are in a majority, but who seem to be few (is it their deafening silence?)

But any fool can see that the sheer amount of men, who are prepared to do unspeakable things to women and girls (and boys as well as other men, not to mention the vulnerable and the elderly...wow, the list goes on) is just overwhelming. I read today about Anene Booysen, and I was absolutely heartbroken, but yet not shocked. For men to be so diabolical to women is not shocking anymore, and that is men's greatest tragedy.

I have two little daughters, and a little son, and I fear for them at the hands of men. Not women...just men.

I feel like I am thinking out loud with this post, so no worries if no one feels they can respond. I just wish I didn't feel so helpless at the tsunami of male violence.

SF, so your fear was especially plain, tbh.

MRA not in Dadsnet? Well they aren't, evidence wise, are they? No threads started, no discussions had. No profile whatsoever. Which IF the interest was to capture hearts and minds, a section of a v large internet site would be of interest. But it isn't. Just FWR.

'So are those posters who've experienced lots of female violence saying that it's pretty similar in prevalence to male violence?'

Depends whose experiencing the violence. Men are way more violent to other men, going by stats. Female violence is minimised. The stats that SagaciousOne linked to says that it's 40%. That's not a small number.

What is not similar, I'd probably say, is the damage that can be done.

Dadsnet is a total wasteland of nothing. You post there and you might get a reply 2 weeks later. The only person who ever seems to be there is you!

Pointless exercise posting there. What is needed is a MR section, which I asked for, but they said no. The dreaded MRA's might congregate there then (not that I've seen many on FWR).

'Was yours a one off incident, SF, or part of a pattern?'

One off. But if I was male, no-one one here would ask if it was a one off would they.

'How many men live in constant fear of their OH hitting them? How many women live in constant fear of their OH hitting them?'

Who knows?

I'm often confused as to why you'd wish to minimise DV and male violence Sf.
Sage's quoted stats simply do not represent the back stories of male abuse re regularity, depth of seriousness of assault etc. As I'd posted somewhere, DVers never say they were role modelled by seeing mum knock shite out of dad. It is always the other way round.

oooh again that's very unfair. We have lots of posters in DN. Have a look and see?

As an idea, I'd like to see a new acronym. Called MRP - Mens Rights Passivists. You know, blokes and women who don't actually cause immediate harm, but will gladly ignore and allow continued abusive actions. And accept as a benefit the consequences. What do you think?

What is needed is a MR section, which I asked for, but they said no.

I wonder why?

Most of the violence I've experienced or witnessed in my life has been female to female or female to male, the only violent man I've ever personally encountered was my sister's ex-husband, who was a sexually, emotionally and violently abusive psychopath, so I do have direct knowledge of how evil men can be.

The girls who bullied me/ physically attacked me from the age of 11-15 had an equally devastating impact on me as my ex-BIL ( I lived with my sister and him from 11 - 16), the 4 girls pushed me down a hill into a road, he kicked me down the stairs when he found out I had a boyfriend at 16.
I honestly believe that violence isn't gendered, it's upbringing and enviroment, not what sex you are.

'Sage's quoted stats simply do not represent the back stories of male abuse re regularity, depth of seriousness of assault etc.'

Are you sure you're not a feminist Pan?

“there is no study, argument, or theory that will persuade us [i.e. radical feminists]“

without looking, DN has threads on porn, how to be a better dad, male violence, depression and a few others. Yes it's quite slow, usually, but to say it's a wasteland is really unfair, and still a reasonable harvest for MRA/MRPs. More so than the FWR which is, it seems, flies round shit.

No SF I'm not a feminist. But then that isn't a requirement to see what's going on, who is doing what to whom, and why.

ha! Nope but then I haven't seen the film fully..apart from the scene ...which was really funny.

'violence is actually a very primal human thing'

It is. Some people are better at reining it in I guess. My kids would batter each other senseless if I let them. And I have had to control myself many times when they've seriously pushed boundaries. It's not easy. And the less socialised you are, the harder it is, or the less reining it in matters.

I don't know why you're getting so wound up about Dadsnet, you didn't create it, and it is dead as a dodo, you've said that yourself!

Oh, btw, ''As an idea, I'd like to see a new acronym. Called MRP..etc'

Bollocks SF it;s largely a socialised thing and a series of permission-givers to act in some violent ways. We aren't simple souls. We have really big brains with which to work stuff out with.
and historically we are a social species and co-operation and partnership reaps the most rewards.

SF I'm not getting wound up about DN at all. Silly to say that. It's just more varied than you state. Nothing more.

DVers never say they were role modelled by seeing mum knock shite out of dad. It is always the other way round.

Well quite.

Plus the 2 women a week in England & Wales murdered at the hands of their partners/ex partners.