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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sex: My British Job. Channel 4

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YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 23/09/2013 23:23

Anybody see this? It was just horrific. I really, really hope it reached the right audience: punters and their defenders. I doubt it, but I hope so Sad

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RamsaySnowsSausage · 27/05/2014 23:31

a visit to a prostitute, a mercy shag or a volunteer sexual surrogate would have stopped the killings

Maybe...but why should women have sex with someone they do not want on the off chance that act would prevent a massacre?

It is not up to women to magically suss out who is likely to do things like this and then give him her body to use.

What the hell?! Why don't you volunteer to give charity shags to violent misogynists?

Do you know you might be able to stop muggings if you deduced who was likely to become a mugger and then went and gave them your money and phone? You wouldn't do that, would you? Not to mention the fact that a woman's body, comfort, safety and right to demand consent is much more valuable than your money or phone.

I can't even believe I'm engaging...you're comments are disgusting.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 28/05/2014 00:15

Women have all the sexual power in heterosexual life.

Would you deny any woman the power to say no to sex with a man? Elliot Rodger would:

"Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence . . . Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female."

Are women just there to calm a man sexually, so that he doesn't mass murder - both the women he desires, and the men that he perceives are having sex with these women?

AnyFucker · 28/05/2014 00:21

I wonder why this zombie thread was bumped by a random Hmm

It makes good use of my report button anyway, which has had a disproportionate amount of action this evening

caxumuveha · 28/05/2014 02:32

"a visit to a prostitute, a mercy shag or a volunteer sexual surrogate would have stopped the killings"

Sexworkers don't have to say yes to every potential client that comes along. And what would happen if one said no to him?

IMO his motive wasn't about sex anyway.

JuliaKlej · 28/05/2014 11:54

"IMO his motive wasn't about sex anyway."

That is not how I understand what he is saying in his promotional videos. Her refers consistently to his virginity at 22 and the way in which the lack of sex drains enjoyment from all other aspects of life, including sunsets.

In answer to the question above, I actually have had sex with a male student who was having suicidal thoughts and seemed dangerously depressed. I think that it helped him considerably.

People like Rodgers are not the typical domestic violence type: the latter tend to be the so-called bad boys: who are socially confident and successful with women. One of Rodgers' rants was about this: about the old adage that "100 of wife-beaters are married": - i.e., for every such violent offender, some unfortunate woman has made a terrible choice. This is what horrifies and mystifies the more gentlemanly nice guys who get nowhere with women. They do not understand sexual/relationship selectiveness, and it's very difficult to explain to them.

JuliaKlej · 28/05/2014 11:57

Sorry - spelling - I meant to say: "He refers consistently to his

virginity at 22 and the way in which the lack of sex drains enjoyment from all other aspects of life,

including sunsets." I spelled "He" as "her".

JuliaKlej · 28/05/2014 12:03

Sabrina, that quote from him shows how little he understood life. It is not the fault of women that they have all the sexual power. These are just the cards we are dealt, and there is little point in men's railing against it, just as there is little point in women's complaining that men do not act sexually like women.

I am beginning to wonder if only gay people are free from issues such as this.

CaptChaos · 28/05/2014 12:27

Women have all the sexual power? Since when?

RamsaySnowsSausage · 28/05/2014 12:42

I actually have had sex with a male student who was having suicidal thoughts and seemed dangerously depressed. I think that it helped him considerably

Well, ok, you wanted to do that. Elliot never encountered anyone who wanted to sleep with him. Do think some women should be forced to shag people they don't want to? Are you suggesting some women should be raped because it might stop someone committing a massacre or getting depressed.

Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that Shock

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 28/05/2014 13:12

Women do not have all the 'sexual power' - that is MRA/PUA talk.

22honey · 28/05/2014 13:50

'The 85-year-old prostitute? That just shows how desperate men are'

She must be in excellent health, its quite draining work mentally, emotionally and physically.

22honey · 28/05/2014 13:52

'I wonder why this zombie thread was bumped by a random'

If your talking about me, it wasn't a zombie thread as it didn't say so at the bottom and it was on the first page of the Feminism board only yesterday, not even anywhere near the bottom infact.

AnyFucker · 28/05/2014 14:05

You are not a random, honey, you are all over the fucking place a regular Smile ...however not every post is an attack on you, despite your misguided assertion that it is

The thread actually came to a conclusion in Nov '13, was bumped by a random in March (for no particular reason) and bumped again yesterday by a random poster before you (again, for no particular reason)

JuliaClay · 28/05/2014 19:42

Someone did not like my Jewish surname and reported me, and I found myself subsequently unable to log on. Before it happens again, I offer the following with an anglicised name:

In reply to RSS, no one was suggesting coercion or anything so ludicrous, merely a bit of compassion to stop someone’s very negative quality of life driving him mad.

“Women have all the sexual power? Since when?”

Ever since the human species or its antecedents began to reproduce sexually.

If one gender is sexually selective (females), the other (male) gender will be at a huge disadvantage. Any woman going out ‘on the pull’ on a Saturday will be guaranteed to find a guy to go home with, indeed will be able to go home with the man of her choice unless he is actually handcuffed to his wife at the time, whereas only the most attractive males even have a chance and still have to work hard for it. The average man, if he ever has a sexual encounter, does so only on rare occasions. Women and men are not even on the same quantum level in terms of sexual power.

PUAs would not exist if women (and the more astute men) were better at giving male friends much-needed social skills advice. Men who need this have been badly let down by their parents in this arena in early childhood and lack social skills, not just with women, but in the workplace, academia and elsewhere.

scallopsrgreat · 28/05/2014 19:49

And what does this imagined power consist of then Julia? Money, status, political power?

Your view of this sexual power is also incredibly westernised. Women aren't allowed 'on the pull' in a great deal of the world.

AnyFucker · 28/05/2014 19:56

You don't get told by HQ why you were reported Julia. And you certainly would not have been banned for having a Jewish name. You are lying.

WhentheRed · 28/05/2014 20:27

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AnyFucker · 28/05/2014 20:32

I don't think "Julia" will be able to reply

Wiesenthal1945 · 28/05/2014 21:35

No, I told you before - sexual power – the power to obtain sex.

The irony is that men, who do have advantages in the fields of money, status, political power, educational advantage, etc. use all of these in the pursuit of sex. If there were some way of exchanging men’s money, status, political power, educational advantage, etc. for the sexual power and choice that women have, men would do this immediately. The opportunity to swap an 80-hour week and an early heart attack for the ability to obtain sex easily? No contest.

The point is that they can if they want – easily.

AnyFucker · 28/05/2014 21:41

Hello again, "Julia" < presses button >

Wiesenthal1945 · 28/05/2014 21:47

The tragedy is that I probably agree with you people on about 98% of feminist issues, but you have lost your minds on this one.

WhentheRed · 28/05/2014 21:52

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WhentheRed · 28/05/2014 21:55

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 28/05/2014 21:56

That's true Wiesenthal1945 my disabled fat 50 yo friend can go to the pub any day and bring home a romantic sexy 20 yo Adonis of her choice to lick her clit and leave. The problem is making him stop sending expenisve gifts like diamond rings afterwards.

It's her overwhelming female power.

Wiesenthal1945 · 28/05/2014 22:36