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Sex: My British Job. Channel 4

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YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 23/09/2013 23:23

Anybody see this? It was just horrific. I really, really hope it reached the right audience: punters and their defenders. I doubt it, but I hope so Sad

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WhentheRed · 26/10/2013 01:24

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SabrinaMulFUCKERJjones · 26/10/2013 01:28

The nordic model criminalises purchase of sex on political grounds that allowing sex work is detrimental, and indeed denies true equality. So any sense of 'regulation' or legalisation would be a misnomer under the nordic model.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:29

When - I think it depends how you legalise it and what measures you put in place.
In a regulated industry, I would think each worker would have to have a license to practice. They would be assessed for that license. They could speak to ex workers during this assessment. They would be given medical care and regular visits on obtaining a license. They would have to renew this license every 6 months.
This is all hypothetical but could be set up.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:31

Sab - it wouldn't be a legalisation within the Nordic model

SabrinaMulFUCKERJjones · 26/10/2013 01:32

You know an awful lot about legalisation/regulation bale, less so about the nordic model.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:32

I doubt it will be abolished in Norway, Whenthered, let alone the world.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:35

I'm saying, sab, if you legalised it you would do that by adopting the Nordic model. For reasons you have given. I'm saying you could use aspects of criminalisation from that model to crack down on the black market.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:35

Wouldnt

SabrinaMulFUCKERJjones · 26/10/2013 01:36

I dunno bale - what's happened in Sweden wrt trafficking figures must be of interest.

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Beachcomber · 26/10/2013 01:39

Oh great, we have yet more men on the thread who wish to argue for women to be made available for entitled men to entitledly fuck.

Try it. Do it. Put your arse on the line. And then get back to Us.

The Nordic model is humane and civilized and doing the best it can to address the huge barrier to gender equality that prostitution is a manifestation of. Anything else is misogyny, women as second class if not nonclass - existing as defined by men in a system created by men for men.

And wino, what the fuck are you harping on about? You have come on here and pontificated endlessly about what a jolly situation prostituting oneself is and how wrong we are to object to it, and now you finally admit that you are only interested in a tiny minority of (white) western women for whom other choices are readily available and realistic. What a huge fucking irrelevant waste of time that was.

And you still haven't addressed the gendered nature of prostitution or got back to us on what it is like for you to put your money where your mouth is and actually fucking well do it yourself rather than just sitting in the comfort of your armchair with your male privilege arguing that women should do it whilst having the fucking gall to make out like you know better than actual real live women what it is like for us to experience penetration we do not want.

The stupid. It hurts. The entitlement. It hurts.

All your posts are totally fucking irrelevant to actual real live prostitution as it is practiced globally in the world today.

HTH.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:40

Trans and men would get the license too. It depends how you view sex I suppose. It would be a service industry where men and women could opt in to. It depends if you view prostitutes unequal

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Beachcomber · 26/10/2013 01:50

"It would be a service industry"

WTAF?

Yougotbale do you have any idea about the extent to which prostitution is controlled by organized crime?

I thought not.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:51

When - I don't view as that but potentially it could be if it was legalised. It would need a completely new view on sex, not the religious one we have now. It would mainly protect people in the industry, prevent people unwillingly entering it.

What it doesn't deal with is preventing it. It works on the basis of making the best of a bad hand, IME.
It's tough because either way, i think there will be someone being taken advantage of

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:52

IMO

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Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 01:58

If it was legalised, how should you describe it?

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 02:17

Ok maybe 'service industry' insights the wrong emotions. I wasnt shore which current industry group it would fall under if it were legalised.
The point was it would be viewed differently. It's more about trying to take back some control, provide regulation and safety/help for the men and women in the industry.

FloraFoxForAnyFucker · 26/10/2013 03:09

Is it fuck about trying to take back control. It's about trying to make sure men can still fuck women who don't want to fuck them.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 03:36

I think that's where it's open to abuse, flora, unfortunately. It could potentially protect men and women in the industry but I see how it may encourage people to enter the industry either as workers or punters.

BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 26/10/2013 08:30

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SabrinaMulFUCKERJjones · 26/10/2013 09:07

Biscuit for bale.

Why not do some more research bale? Sharpen up your argument a bit? You sound a bit out of your depth.

Yougotbale · 26/10/2013 09:12

Buffy - I went from using the word 'prostitute' to 'men and women'. People were assuming it would only be legal for women. The position was described as mysoginistic rather than a method of policing all prostitution. I don't reckon it would ever happen in the UK though.
I'm not sure how you would get rid of prostitution, globally.

BuffytheAnyAppleFucker · 26/10/2013 09:15

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