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Anyone watching 'The other Boleyn girl'??

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Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 21:56

Seems like a pretty crap time to be a woman (or a girl)!

Anyone know how true it all is??

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Other_Boleyn_Girl_%282008_film%29

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StuffezLaYoni · 01/06/2013 22:02

Yup, I am. It's a great film but very uncomfortable in places.

Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:04

It's one small way that the women are all set against each other, sister against sister, the queen against the new ladies in waiting.

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Badvoc · 01/06/2013 22:08

It's basically bullshit :)
Mary and Anne were both at the French court of Francis I and Mary was his mistress first. She had a bit of a rep actually.
Jane Parker and George Boleyn were married, very unhappily.
Henry Percy and Anne were betrothed and very much in love but Wolsey and his father split them up and married him off to Anne talbot. It was a miserable marriage for both of them and Percy died bitter and without an heir.
Some think that Mary's dc were Henry's, but imo if they had been, he would have legitimised them, especially the boy Henry Carey.

StuffezLaYoni · 01/06/2013 22:09

It is dismal and depressing but i think women are still set against each other and screw each other over similarly today. I really do like the film bit find it hard to watch. Anne is portrayed as particularly twisted and devious....

susiedaisy · 01/06/2013 22:09

Recording it to watch tomorrow, just watched a program called a time travellers guide to the Elizabethan era or something like that and it was pretty bleak to be a women then also!

StuffezLaYoni · 01/06/2013 22:11

Eric bana is bloody gorgeous though...

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Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:14

Thanks all for your wise words.

It does seem a bit romantisied!!

Feel sorry for Natalie Portman, she is more feisty and (personal opinion here!) more beautiful! Not that that should count for anything but as I say just my thoughts (before am hounded!!).

My goodness, imagine coming in and telling your mum, dad and uncle how many times you bonked!!!!!!!!! Sorry that over simlifies..... it's pretty crapola.

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StuffezLaYoni · 01/06/2013 22:16

You won't feel sorry for Anne when she decides to screw her sister over. I might switch off at that point!

Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:16

Actually I like Dominic Cummerbund! Myself. But he is decidedly wimply in this!

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thenightsky · 01/06/2013 22:17

Oh Bollux... I meant to record this but forgot! Is it repeated anywhere?

Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:18

Yes, I know, I know, I can guess how it all ends! I have actually seen it before but I am just thinking of it now. She wanted to marry this bloke, did, then her bloody uncle comes and craps all over her parade. Why does the uncle have so much power!!

Badvoc any ideas??

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Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:18

thenightsky just start watching no and read up on wickipedia, I missed the start too.

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Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:19

Kirsten Scott Thomas oh no --- Allowing the men to believe they are in charge!!!

It's ok, I know it's not real. Back to the ironing!!!

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 01/06/2013 22:22

'She wolves' reminds me, there was a series of programmes under than name on BBC iplayer a few months ago - it might be you can find them on youtube? They were really good and IIRC touched on this time period.

I think it probably was a fairly unpleasant time to be a woman, but I also think Anne and Mary's real-life parents weren't very nice even by the standards of the time.

thenightsky · 01/06/2013 22:23

Italiangreyhound i cannot coz DH is watching a DVD. What channel are you on? I might find it an hour later somewhere perhaps.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 01/06/2013 22:25

The uncle had power because he was the head of the family (oldest son of Mary and Anne's father). He had a lot of political power as well.

StuffezLaYoni · 01/06/2013 22:25

Urgh listen to them, planning to keep the king tempted while he can't shag one daughter, by dangling the other in front of him. Lovely.

Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:26

BBC2

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StuffezLaYoni · 01/06/2013 22:28

Hang on, the uncle was surely the rather of the girls' dad?

Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:28

I am not sure if Anne would have been telling the kind women were equal! Bit modern, or am I being agesit!

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Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:29

Is the brother meant to be gay, in love with his sister or just not interested in his wife, sorry, not a loaded question, just seems he was pretty quick to reject the marriage.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 01/06/2013 22:30

Yep. Sorry, I am running a temperature and in any case fairly dim.

The uncle was the oldest son in his generation of the family, which is why he had power.

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Italiangreyhound · 01/06/2013 22:30

I mean telling the king women were equal!

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StuffezLaYoni · 01/06/2013 22:33

Oh it all goes horrific from now on - think my brain can only cope with something mindless.... Like Family Guy.