AF: please do go back an re read that very post, I named checked TWO posters not just one. I admitted and and acknowledged that a well known,
(equal opportunity opposer) had made a comment. The representative name, of the posters who have not posted was not me being goady. It was if anything a reflection on your last point, which I agree entirely with btw. A debate, a proper full on, adult cross exchange of ideas and thoughts that does not degenerate in to name calling or personal insults. Or just repeats the same line over and over, is very much what I would welcome. I speak for no one else, since though myself and other posters have said very smiler things I would not be in the least surprised if a proper and respectful debate was to start, they would enter in to it also.
One other thing interested me about your point and it is the assumption that you were "lumped" in to a general category. Firstly as someone who has been told that I too am lumped in to a general category and that rather dubious honour means that my views on anything are to be seen as problematic and that no one out side my imposed designation would ever voluntarily look at anything I say, I feel smiler to you that being "lumped" in to a group is basic a silencing tactic. (OK you did not say that but your reference lead me to extrapolate that.) So I do want to you to contribute, even though it might well be anti my stance the only way that we can debate as I said earlier is to have a range of views. We might possibly never agree, what that means though is not that either one of us is wrong. The moral certinity often expressed on these pages often turns in to the argument of right and wrong when in fact human behaviour is probably wrong for some people most of the time.
Lastly and still with the lumped in issue, this is the first thread that I have been able to explain my understanding and belief of what the specific issues of impaired people and SEXUALITY, not prostitution are. However being lumped means that I have never been able to explain my point of view as being lumped means that I get attacked and end up defending myself more than explaining myself. The point I am making here is that being lumped is an issue of respect, I respect your view, I would like to have it put forward, I will always try and debate fairly and opnely on the facts (I know others would disagree with that but again not being listened to or offered respect leads to playing up, childish I know). So I am asking you a serious question, how do we unlump each other and get back to a situation where you seeing my name means you know what I will say but at least give me the chance to say it and explain it, and vice a vera for yourself. (Although and this might sound like sucking up, your style is often much more abrasive than the content of what you say. This at least I and I think others can cope with as it does not in it's self cause hurt feeling. Being called a rape apologist does though)
Sorry for the essay folks.