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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is the term 'Angry Fucking' potentially offensive to some women?

236 replies

Ohsiena · 31/10/2012 12:25

Ok I said I wouldn't start this, but I've been challenged to do so enough times, so I'm giving in.

It's about this thread - To think you should stay out of other people's bedrooms (378 Posts) 1This thread.

A very few of us understood why the term angry fucking was offensive to MrsC originally.

Most thought she had no sense of humour and just didn't get the joke.

Discussion was widened as a poster thught it was worse as used by a man. This has been attacked as sexist.

I stated on there that I'd like to see what some of the more feminist minded posters would make of this discussion.

I didn't want to start this, I've felt like a bit of a lone voice on there at times and need to do some RL stuff, but I've been called again and again to do so, so I have.

You'll see the phrase pearl clutching a lot....

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SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:20

I know they do but I disagree that that means it isn't either aggressive or "pretend aggression" iyswim. in the same way, but not on the same scale, as couples acting out rape fantasies. Fuck is not a loving or respectful word.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:21

joyful it was mainly due to the fact it was a male poster. That is what annoyed me tbh.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:22

To you perhaps..

Sex lives are so varied. It's a real tricky one.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:23

And I don't think sex always has to be loving, but I do think it always has to be respectful, even if on the surface its not iyswim
Anyway, I I'd not clutch my pearls or fall over. I am not horrified by the use of the term. But I was a little put off by the term suddenly popping up in the middle of a light hearted thread.

PeggyCarter · 31/10/2012 13:23

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PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:25

Honestly? I think some posters have a bit of an issue with beardy and his humour and have a bit of an agenda here. bd jumped on it.

By that mrscant I DONT mean you.

That's my thought.

Which is why I really hope this thread dosent turn into a blood bath again!

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:26

Polar - that's fair enough. I don't agree with you but I don't want to belittle your feelings just put my view across.

Aboutlastnight · 31/10/2012 13:26

It was a lighthearted comment.

Within the context of the thread there was no reason to take offence. On a thread of a different nature then it would be appropriate.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:26

Fair enough. I'm getting deeper into this than I really want to. But for he record since I seem to be in a minority I didn't like it, I found it an unnecessarily agreessive comment, and I think the same whether made by a mn or a woman.

ScrambledSmegsEvilTwin · 31/10/2012 13:27

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'Angry fucking' ... hmm. Nope, sorry, I can't equate that term with abuse. To me fucking implies two people (or more, depending on your proclivities) having consensual but somewhat annoyed sex. It happens. I'd prefer the word bonking because I don't actually like 'fucking' as a word, but that's me.

And people being more upset that the poster who made the initial joke was a man? That's sexist. Really, really sexist. I'm pretty Shock at that, more so than by the original comment. I honestly thought MN was better than that Sad.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:28

That's fair enough polar, to be honest I am
More confused why people find it more offensive from a man...

If you find it offensive full stop then you do, we are all different.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:28

blood that was my argument. If your going to be offended by a joke that's your choice but it shouldnt matter what gender the person is who made it.

I couldn't say I want to fuck you to someone as they would probably laugh Grin

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:28

No reason to take offence?
I'll feel how I choose to feel thank you, which was mildly offended by a comment I felt was very bad taste. Please do not instruct me not to take offence.
Fuck when used in a non sexual Wu tends to mean screwed up, screwed over, meddled with, completely destroyed.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:30

So I'm struggling to understand how it can mean the complete opposite when used in asexual way. But hey Ho.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:30

Was that to me polar bear as if so you must have misread my post.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:31

And people being more upset that the poster who made the initial joke was a man? That's sexist. Really, really sexist

Exactly that yet they didn't see it as sexist. Basically all men are sexual deviants who shouldn't make sex jokes is how the thread ended

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:31

No to aboutlastnight

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:32

Ok phew!

Grin
SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:33

Fast moving thread :)

Seriously. If someone says fuck you, that is on a scale of disrespectful to incredibly threatening. I can't disassociate that from the term used to describe fluffy babydancing.

worldgonecrazy · 31/10/2012 13:34

I agree with scrambledegg that I'm also disappointed that something is offensive just because a man has said it.

"Angry fucking" to me implies that sort of mad sex that sometimes happens after an argument when two people who care about and love each other just need to work off some frustration.

In addition, using the word "fuck" in the appropriate context can be extremely sexy and a great turn on for both men and women.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:35

Fluffy babydancing Grin

"let's have relations?" Or "let's do the sexuals"

ScrambledSmegsEvilTwin · 31/10/2012 13:35

People can take offence at it though. I don't blame them for that. Honestly, I've looked at the original thread and have to admit I found the joke a bit distasteful, despite being a bit of a geek and knowing about the Hulk.

I'm just not a particularly sweary person, and it isn't normal to me.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:35

Well I don't call baby dancing fucking either.

But it's all about the context to me and this was clearly not a comment intended to be sexually threatening.

willyoulistentome · 31/10/2012 13:37

I hate it! 'Fuck' is a massive turn off for me. DH used to ask me if he could...and it just made me feel like going and f-ing himself! Angry f-ing is just vile.

ScrambledSmegsEvilTwin · 31/10/2012 13:38

Baby Dancing? BABY DANCING??!!!!

Wash your mouth out!!!! You'll be chucking glitter all over the place next!

We are not that sort of place. Honestly. Some people [[hhmm]

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