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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is the term 'Angry Fucking' potentially offensive to some women?

236 replies

Ohsiena · 31/10/2012 12:25

Ok I said I wouldn't start this, but I've been challenged to do so enough times, so I'm giving in.

It's about this thread - To think you should stay out of other people's bedrooms (378 Posts) 1This thread.

A very few of us understood why the term angry fucking was offensive to MrsC originally.

Most thought she had no sense of humour and just didn't get the joke.

Discussion was widened as a poster thught it was worse as used by a man. This has been attacked as sexist.

I stated on there that I'd like to see what some of the more feminist minded posters would make of this discussion.

I didn't want to start this, I've felt like a bit of a lone voice on there at times and need to do some RL stuff, but I've been called again and again to do so, so I have.

You'll see the phrase pearl clutching a lot....

OP posts:
MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 12:58

Chub I think the problem was this.

A joke was made about the hulk's strap on. FINE

ANother joke came in response and this spoke of angry fucking

I said "I don't like that term"

And was leaped upon by loads of people who said I was uptight and pathetic for voicing my thoughts.

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:00

Fanjo if I were to tell a joke about "funny lynching", on a site where black people were present but tried to pass it off as a joke in relation to something fictional.

I would get quashed.

Women are also a minority and one which has suffered due to sexual violence....therefore a joke about angry fucking isn't good imo.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:00

I agree with chub OP is trying to goad yet has failed as people see what the context really was.

I really do hope she wasn't trying to say a poster was in same league as JS too.

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:01

And don't tell me there's no comparison. Women have been oppressed for centuries and have and still are suffering from sexual violence every day.

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:02

I am leaving the thread again. I hope someone who is more articulate than I am comes along.

ISeeDeadFairies · 31/10/2012 13:02

"pass it off as something fictional" is the hulk real then?

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:02

and that if you don't like the term "fuck" you prefer "babydance". Come on!

ISeeDeadFairies · 31/10/2012 13:03

Jog on. Next?

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:03

was that to me?

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:04

Mrs it wasn't a joke about angry fucking it was a joke about a hulk strap only been used for that due to the hulk been an angry huge man. He didn't say he used a hulk strap to angrily fuck people.

It's all about finding things to be offended about tbh. A hulk strap on as nothing to do with women suffering sexual violence tbh

McKayz · 31/10/2012 13:04

I have no problem with 'angry fucking' at all in the context it was used. It was very clearly a joke about the Incredible Hulk. Not about oppressing women.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:05

blood babydance Grin that's a bit creepy ain't it. Grin

Fornicating is a better word

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:05

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ISeeDeadFairies · 31/10/2012 13:05

No no it was to mrs sorry! Blush

ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 31/10/2012 13:06

When I was at school, sex ed was called 'Human Copulation'. It came complete with a diagram which resembled a ham slicer at a deli.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:07

Mrs c

I can only speak for myself but I at no point thought you were pathetic etc. I felt that you had every right to your feelings however I didn't like and still don't the way that beardy is getting portrayed over it.

SolidGoldYESBROKEMYSPACEBAR · 31/10/2012 13:08

Just about everything is offensive to someone, somewhere. I haven't read the other thread yet but IMO the term 'angry fucking' would imply people having sex after a row and finding it additionally exciting, which some people do. It's not always blindingly healthy but it's not all that terrible, either.

TinyDancingHoofer · 31/10/2012 13:09

Anger is a precuser to violence
No, it is not. I am perfectly capable at being raging with anger without being violent. Anger is sometimes a precursor to violence.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:09

Well listen. If you are all happy with the "joke" why don't YOU jog on and let people who were not, talk about WHY they weren't.

Piss off back to the other thread and row among yourselves.

That's because no one is agreeing with your loony idea that hulk strap ons represent women been repressed for centuries.

People who weren't on the original thread have also said the context it was in wasn't offensive and they don't see the comparison

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:09

I'm finding this whole thread a bit shit tbh. All very superior and competitive non-offendedness.
The word fuck is an unpleasant word to use about sex. Add in angry and the unpleasantness becomes implied violence. Few people want to be "fucked" by their partner. Do you want your children to grow up and be fucked? I certainly don't - the word to me implies both feel disdain and a lack of respect for each other.

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:11

I actually have no problem with the word fuck. It was only when it was used along with angry that I took offence.

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:12

But you're right PolarBear...it IS very Oh I'm so cool about sex and shit that you could smack me round the head with your angry dildo and I would laugh

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:13

that's interesting. I'd have had no problem with "angry sex" or "angry shagging" or "angry babydancing" :o

TinyDancingHoofer · 31/10/2012 13:13

If anyone was going to be angrily fucked by a strap on wouldn't it be a man anyway?

24joy · 31/10/2012 13:14

I dont mind being 'fucked' by my partner. Quite like it actually