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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How do Radfems propose to tear down the patriarchy?

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Hullygully · 27/06/2012 10:23

Just that. Interested to know how.

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 29/06/2012 14:12

I think we are in a backlash, but I also think there is a re-emergence of feminism happening at the moment

Whatmeworry · 29/06/2012 14:28

I think we are in a backlash, but I also think there is a re-emergence of feminism happening at the moment

I agree with that, or at least as hard won Feminist rights are attacked there is a re-emergence of a defence.

But I think there is also a good old "conservative backlash vs liberal policies" going on too, and its useful to untangle which is which

And this is also partly also mixed up in the "oh shit there is no money - what do we have to cut" stuff happening. I think it is necessary to admit some stuff just isn't working as it should, and then get in there with proposals for reform rather than letting the conservatives poison it or the mandarins cut it.

More insidious to all this though IMO is the Real Patriarchy - the 1% or so - is busy helping itself to all the pies. And I think there is a huge confluene of interestys that could fight this, and one of teh win-wins would be that Feminism could get a lot of the benefits it wants for taking part. (A bit like the working classes won huge rights for fighting WW2 for the Establishment)

garlicbutt · 29/06/2012 14:29

Yes, Eats, it's an inevitable loop, isn't it? I like to think it's more of a loopy trajectory than a never-ending spiral, iyswim ... Three steps forward, two steps back, three steps forward ...

Feminism: Er, any reason why women can't vote?
Patriarchy: Bluster, bluster, oh all right, then, dear. Vote away. Aren't I good?!
Feminism: Ta very much. I'm voting for equal pay.
Patriarchy: Equal pay? Don't be ridiculous! We can't afford it!
Feminism: Now who's being daft? Come on, equal pay or you don't get equal work.
Patriarchy: You're so demanding all of a sudden! Get working!
Feminism: No pay, no work.
Patriarchy: You win. It's costing me a fortune, you were better when you were cheap. How about a quick feel to prove you're worth the extra?
Feminism: How about you take a running jump, creep?
Patriarchy: Frigid old prude, that's what you are. I'm divorcing you.
Feminism: No, I'm divorcing you. I voted for that too, remember?
Patriarchy: If you leave me, I'll surround myself with luscious female teenage flesh! That'll make you sorry!
Feminism: It'll make me disgusted. Lay one finger on those girls, I'll show you up for the creep you are.
Patriarchy: No-one will believe you. I'm lovely, me! You're just an embittered old hag.

... and so on Grin

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 29/06/2012 14:33

Grin Yes and do we need to keep fighting!

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