"uni lad" and lad culture

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There was a big furore recently about the "uni lad" magazine advocating rape. They closed their website to "clean up their act" but their facebook page is still so misogynistic :(
This popped up in the activity feed on my facebook the other day. I got involved but ended up having more sexist comments fired at me and in the end deleted my comments to avoid becoming a target.
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=381942055162193&set=a.352663588090040.76923.146505212039213&type=1&theater
Fortunately it never reached 15,000 likes but this type of behaviour is becoming more and more accepted.

Ok josephine

Whatever.

KellyKettle No, it can't be. Racist and homophobic statements/actions are classed as hate crimes and are therefore taken much more seriously as a result.

For reasons unfathomable to me, crimes against women, hate speech that incites violence against women, etc, are not legally defined as hate speech/crimes.

What if I sued though? For defemation of my gender? Would that work? Women go to court for sexual harrasment etc don't they?

Defamation I meant!

Facebook don't seem to give a shit though do they? They are too busy deleting people showing pictures of breastfeeding.

I liked defemation actually ;-)

So did I. Freudian slip there?

I think they're ignoring it too...if people on here have reported too they have obciously noticed...but are ignoring.

Can I ask why the hell women who "don't have sons" ( what, do you want a medal for producing all-females?) seem to think that as soon as you have a son, your brain turns to mush and you become all about the menz. FWIW, I have four sons and they all know full-well what my opinion of these misogynistic twats is. And I hope I have raised my older boys and will raise my younger boys to treat women with respect.

Who said that Chip?

Awkward, maybe I'm taking her up wrong but Lovetats comment at 15.30 begins with "I don't have sons" and wondering what the mothers of these shits guys think. Why is it relevant that she doesn't have sons? I didn't like misogynists before I had sons and I certainly didn't start to like them as soon as I held ds1 in my arms.

I see Chip I think maybe it was a badly put ponder...I also wonder what the lads Mums might think if they read that kind of stuff...but I suppose it's like any parents...some are good and some are not. SOME will be horrified and others will shrug.

It's like I wonder why some girls are mean or violent...and think about their parents and how they brought them up...but I do see what you're saying. Maybe she said she didn't have sons as a way of explaining she might be talking bollocks?

Probably just me reading too much into it. But have spent years in the company of women with girls only who have occasionally looked at me as if they pity me for having to raise wild animals. And my boys are actually quiet lads!

I felt the same about AyeRobot's comment Chip,
''Bet there's more than one MNer's offspring on there. They must be so proud.''

as if she was blaming the mothers for the way in which the boys had become misogynistic, that as a parent they had either failed or were proud of the fact they had produced 'real men' but apparently it was only a joke in another poster's opinion.

So discrimination based on gender is frowned upon but not illegal?

I'm going to do some more googling & thinking on this.

So his website could only be taken down if it was breaking the law?

In my day parents would have been shocked if they knew what their children were thinking / saying / up to and I suspect that still holds true, whether the children are male or female.

I think that as a parent you do your best but peer pressure is so strong... Blaming the parents is not thing to do.

Most of the people "liking" that facebook page will look back in 20 years in horror (as people have always looked back in horror at the things they thought/said/did when they were young).

Question is should ideas like these be propogated through popular media accessed / seen by children and impressionable types and also more or less thrust into the path of people who really don't want to see it.

It's the old free speech vs what is acceptable to society question.

Obv on here most of us don't like this content whether in "lads mags" or open facebook pages and I think we are right but I don't think the "blaming the parents" thing is the right tack to take.

The problem with social media is that it's far more accessible and many parents are lazy about it....my Dad never stopped me reading whatever book I fancied though and I was reading some real crap at the age of ten...it's not harmed me so I wonder if allowing kids the freedom of the internet within reason is actually ok....with guidance they should form decent opinions.

I was reading James Herbert and Stephen King at ten....I lapped that stuff up and some of it is downright mysoginistic...like a lot of horror. But I survived and grew up ok...formed my own opinions.

Mind you...these are real people...not fictional characters...

I just showed ds1 the link and asked what he thought of a guy who would do something like that. He said the guy was a sick f**k. So good principles but sadly bad language!

How weird.

I broke talk guidelines for using his real name? When he used it and left his security open so that everyone could see who he was and get to know his whole family and acknowledge what a loser he is?

'k.

How comes we were all allowed to post the f. For. J names everywhere that we're splashed on Facebook, then? And their wives names, and ex's names? That were all in the public domain?

Nope, have read the talk guidelines and have absolutely no idea why my comment was deleted.

The guy posts on a public web page using his real name. I was merely pointing out that's a pretty dumb thing to do when you're spouting shite.

Agree madwoman, I don't understand it. Also think he's an arsehole.

Did someone report your post then?

Odd