Disabled 'deserve' the joy of sex.

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www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/disabled-deserve-sex-rights/story-e6frea83-1226310720177

In brief, the Dignity for the Disabled MP in Australia wants the tax payer to fund sex workers for the disabled.

thoughts?

Oh no no no no no no no!!!! Exploiting women so that disabled men can get their jollies? What about men who are just plan ugly or lacking in the personality department? Should they get sex workers provided for them too?

There are plenty of people in this world who may struggle to get sex through the usual channels. But turning to paying some poor woman who has no other way to earn her crust? Wrong wrong wrong!

Sex is not something that should ever be bought. If you can't find a willing partner yourself, masturbate. Even if you struggle to masturbate with your hands there are plenty of sex toys that would help.

How about using the money to train the sex workers in a real job so they don't have to sell themselves to survive?

Or, if disabled people really need help with sex, spend the money on developing sex aids they can easily use.

It's just back-door politics again - they want to decriminalise sex work - which is fairly decriminalised already in Australia a it happens.

However, this would be reliant on the passing in Parliament of a Bill decriminalising sex work.

Right. In your dreams mate.

To consider sex as a 'right' is just so deeply, deeply wrong and disturbing.

That's pretty much what I was thinking Annie, but struggling to put my thoughts in to words.

no no no no no!

EVERYONE has the right to masturbate, and the right (IMHO) to have masturbatory aids if necessary.

Instead of faceless sex workers, how about the social workers defending this idea do it? It could be treated like an overnighter on duty. They could have a payscale list.

no? Doesn't appeal? Hmm, didn't think so.

Nobody has the "right" to sex (in this context). Nobody.

Suppose there are women and men who consider themselves sex therapists. Who would not dream of walking the streets as a prostitute, and have not been trafficked or co-erced but understand a disabled person's yearning for a human sexual touch? Who would offer sexual services in the same way that a woman sells her parenting skills as a foster carer? Why is it OK to sell your home and mothering as a foster carer but not to work as a specialist sex escort for disabled people? What if a disabled woman would like to engage this service from a man? Or a disabled gay man from a sexual partner?

Sex isn't a human right.

I am disabled, but I'm a woman, so obv have no right to have genitals, never mind sex.
It's unbelievably patronising to disabled people and equally oppressive to women.
AnyFucker -you're right

No, this is exploitation

Puzzled that offering foster care should be compared to selling your body....

This was done last year sometimes and it was specifically to do with those with severe learning disabilities most of whom would not be capable of full penetrative sex anyway but may need to help to physically masturbate. I actually refuse to get brought into this discussion though because there is enough ignorance about adults within our society with severe learning disabilities without having to read or listen to all this shite.

The reason foster care is differentis because the carer gets to be an actual, real life carer - not acting out a 'real carer experience' for the money

Well, it was an open question.

I am not so sure that sex is sacrosanct as something never to be sold.

I am 100% against exploitation of women as sex workers, and there is a terrible balance of power dynamic in a paid sex relationship betwen a woman and man, where the woman is economically, socially, legally, physically and medically vulnerable.

A few years ago I saw a documentary about sex workers offering paid sex to disabled people. I don't see how this can be funded through state benefits, but I don't know why if someone can be paid to take care of other bodily functions such as toiletting, then they couldn't also be paid to take care of other intimate actions. In this context, why is sex more sacrosanct? It's a thing people do, often for love, often just for pleasure, even with someone they don't love. Plenty of women have unloving sexual relationships for the enjoyment of it.

Sex is just something to do for pleasure.

Unless it is used in an abusive context.

Fostering: if it's real life caring why do they need to be paid?

Paid to care, to give parenting / paid to give sexual pleasure.
It seems a comparable sort of principle to me unless you see sex as something inherently bad that can only ever harm the person involved. It can be bad and harmful, it can be wonderful, it can be ordinary, and unloving by mutual consent.

Because they are not paid to care, they're paid for the added expense it brings. Sex isn't sacrosanct per se, but it has been a site of political struggle for a long time, particularly with reference to women having equally enjoyable sex as men. Marie Stopes was an early campaigner in the early C20.
Every time sex is provided as a 'service' itundermines the aim of equal, mutually pleasurable sexual relationships, partic for women

To view sex as a 'need' fuels rape myths for sure. Many non disabled people are virgins their whole lives and it didn't do them any harm. Famous people even. The idea that sex is a need is a modern myth. It's pretty much always men paying for sex. In the current climate, prostitutes are abused, beaten up, KILLED etc on a regular basis. Why should anyone have a 'right' to buy into that? Thanks very much for prioritising their (bullshit) 'rights' at the expense of mine as a woman. And sex is NOT comparable to personal care and other essential needs.

CalmingMiranda - I don't see how you can compare dealing with someone's toiletting needs to taking care of their sexual desires. One is a need. The other isn't.

No one is suggesting that disabled people have any less right to sex than anyone else. What we object to is that sex coming at the too-high priced of exploitation of a sex worker.

I would ask anyone who thinks this is a good idea to show me a sex worker who wouldn't rather be doing another job if he/she could.

Sex is a want, not a need.

Even small children can be taught the difference between a want and a need.

what everyone else has said. I'm a disabled woman and am horrified at this sugestion.

No. No.No.No.

Nobody dies by Not having sex: indeed, for many people, they are healthier or save their lives i.e. AIDS.

To decree it is a Need is to fuel the rape myth.