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Agenda, much?

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Malificence · 03/03/2012 17:47

I don't usually wander onto the MN facebook page but I was pretty horrified to find what looks very much like an MRA agenda posted on there.
I'm trying very hard to see what relevance the photo used for their site has regarding the voices of unheard children. Hmm Looks more like how they would like to see their women to me.

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SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 06/03/2012 20:00

Fake ETA, you dummy, spy

AyeRobot · 06/03/2012 20:01

Surely you mean "the right of all children to see their good parents"? Cos it's about the children, isn't it?

solidgoldbrass · 06/03/2012 20:01

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NarkedPuffin · 06/03/2012 20:05

He said NOTHING about his ex partner or his case

'I hereby apologize to Elizabeth for casting her in an unfavorable light by suggesting that she withheld (my son) from me or that she in any manner prevented me from seeing (my son) during that period. That decision was mine and mine alone.
'I further apologize to all my Facebook Friends for attempting to mislead them into thinking that Elizabeth was in any manner preventing me from spending time with (my son), which caused several of my Facebook Friends to respond with angry, venomous, and inflammatory comments of their own

Hmm

you don't have much contact with reality do you?

spydiii · 06/03/2012 20:06

Damn, about to go when...

OK, what you posted above is what he was ordered by the judge to write despite claiming it was not true. He had to before the judge would allow him to see his child again.

Here's his original posting on Facebook which you chose not to post (strangely).

"'If you are an evil, vindictive woman who wants to ruin your husband's life and take your son's father away from him completely - all you need to do is say that you're scared of your husband or domestic partner and they'll take him away!"

Where is his wife named? yes, we all KNOW what he was saying but he was careful not to name her. Also, fact is, he was cleared of the allegations which earlier prevented him from seeing his son. How come you're not getting all frothy mouthed about that one? Perjury and perverting the course of justice is a crime after-all - the later carrying a heavy sentence. So, as a victim of crime he was forced to accept he'd not see his son, and got all angry and posted a general comment on the net about it. I see quite a few above that are far stronger. You think it's right to humiliate a man who's suffered this way by making him apologise to the perpetrator? the judge wrote the words for him to post each day for 30 days, not the father himself.

This is the kind of behaviour that just goes to prove the kind of support needed. If a woman was treated this way we'd all be up in arms, instead it's used as evidence of him being a bad dad. Sighs...

spydiii · 06/03/2012 20:06

Now I'm going for food. Night all. :)

NarkedPuffin · 06/03/2012 20:13

So you decided to post his comments that were deemed libellous?

And Ignore the fact that the courts confirm he was given twice weekly supervised access?

But you choose to disbelieve the wife and the judge and the contact centre because it's a 'conspiracy'?

Dworkin · 06/03/2012 20:13

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NarkedPuffin · 06/03/2012 20:20

WOW.

I hope you're never on a jury.

Yes, I know that the shopkeeper identified the robber and the shop customer witnessed the robbery and the man fixing his car opposite saw the robber running away but I don't believe it because the robber said he didn't do it and you're all humiliating him by putting him through this trial...

BasilRathbone · 06/03/2012 20:21

Well you should know that it's much worse for a man to be humiliated, than for a woman to be punched.

Have some respect for the ego...

SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 06/03/2012 20:22

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BasilRathbone · 06/03/2012 20:22

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FrothyDragon · 06/03/2012 20:34

Shit. I've just been told off for fucking swearing and bigotry by one of the F4J darlings... :( The swearing, I accept... but bigotry? I only decided a bit of healthy debate with a rad fem was what they needed.... :(

SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 06/03/2012 20:38

Did they send you a PM?

FrothyDragon · 06/03/2012 20:40

Nope, just booted from the F4J FB page for no apparent reason, then told on MN's FB page that was the reason, in a VEEEERY patronising manner. Harrumph. If they hadn't already booted me, I'd have flounced by now...

Dworkin · 06/03/2012 20:42

Flounce away Frothy. Let's all flounce together.

Men never lie, but women always do. That's it in a nutshell Basil.

FrothyDragon · 06/03/2012 20:44

But I'm having too much fun exposing their misogyny... [whistle]

FrothyDragon · 06/03/2012 20:45

Dear Mnhq, why do we not have a whistling clipart? Would bring so much joy to my evenings...

StewieGriffinsMom · 06/03/2012 20:48

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RowanMumsnet · 06/03/2012 20:52

Hello gender warriors

Please can I remind all and sundry to follow our roooles about personal attacks, please? We welcome robust debate, but outright abuse directed at fellow MNers (of any persuasion) will be deleted. And we'd hate to have to delete the entire thread as a bunfight...

Thanks
MNHQ

StewieGriffinsMom · 06/03/2012 20:54

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FrothyDragon · 06/03/2012 20:58

Can we also please have a clarification on what constitutes a troll?

I'm a bit dubious about people being encouraged to set up accounts by F4J and it's followers, just to report our posts, etc. Particularly when they're also referring to us in derogatory terms, in our view, and we can do nothing to defend ourselves?

NubblesStryverFlintwinch · 06/03/2012 21:05

And they are calling us ladies. Marking place. I don't know where you all get the energy to engage with these people.

BasilRathbone · 06/03/2012 21:06

Yeah, how come it's a personal attack when I say a poster is slagging off other posters, or talking "some such twaddle" but when we're as a group attacked as nutters, manhaters etc., it's a group thang, so not a personal insult.

Harumph.

StewieGriffinsMom · 06/03/2012 21:12

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