The departure of dittany

[Pan]

I only know that she has left, and in her post she didn't say much as to why, though some people can speculate and imagine why.

Quite a few days ago (last weekend I think) there were threads that pinpointed the lack of consideration that MNHQ has toward the sort of trolls that infest the FS section from time to time - different in nature and purpose to your average troll that infects MN from time to time.

It may well be that d. is in contact with regular posters whom she trusts. I don't know.

What I do know is that d. was a fabulous source of invigoration and illumination to a lot of posters, myself included, though we didn't always agree with her.

I would like a review from MNHQ of their current "talk guidlines" policy, in order that the FS is provided with a consideration that recognises the particular vulnerability that it experiences.

D. left for her own reasons - but this presents itself as a sort of 'test case' for MN to respond sensitively.

Would anyone agree and post here in support of this?

But Dittany was guilty of over reaction at a times. We all are. Tbh I found her to be quite rude and patronising, which is a shame, as she is very knowledgeable. I guess she ran out of patience with some of us who questioned her. On the whole I learn a lot from the Feminist boards.

Much the most useful down check button on slashdot is "troll". Stripeybump, the issue is that trolls are rare-but-prolific. And they currently prefer to do their dirty work more subtly, although god knows an idiot is an idiot no matter how clever they think they're being by saying dworkin.

sm - it's a bit more than that. with respect. It's more about how the boards, esp. the more personally and politically sensitive ones are considered.

This thread is not about that SM.

It's about what can be done about those posters who are not really interested in discussion but are simply determined to attention seek and disrupt.

It's a different type of trolling to usual and MN needs to update their trolling rules to deal with it.

yes K999 - so did I at times - but the request, as I have said, for a review isn't purely about dittany.

Sybil, the code is available for free! It works really well.

It just feels... like the majority of MN regular posters aren't welcomed on the Fem topic. So tbh maybe it's better that those of you who want a load of new rules imposed, try a new website that isn't MN. An MN Fem topic should be for all MNers who'd like to chat about Fem issues, non? At the moment it's only welcoming to a very narrow set of posters, styles, intelligence levels, opinions and posting styles. MN is a free-for-all, or should be.

I'm not even a mum yet and I've ben posting for years, noone except the Fem area has made me feel unqualified or unwelcome.

I disagree Stripeybump.
Anyone can join in, as long as they are sincere about contributing, not about shutting people up.

well given you started the thread pan,you would say its about so much more. sorry but its shaping up like mn oscars and fan call outs

what more why did the fem topics feels so got at or ask mn to revisit or reconsider them as a specific and safe space?

when someone flounces from aibu does a lot of folk say oh gosh whatshername has left does the mn critical mass demand review of aibu and trolls

Can she not just change her name?

something does need to be done about the trolls who label others things like: RA, MRA and woman-hater

"can she not just change her name?"

A basic tenet of feminism is that women should not have to modify their behaviour to avoid male aggression. She could, but should not have to.

SM, aibu is vv diff from feminism. You can't develop your knowledge or understanding of aibu, you can w feminism. It is much more like SN, which differs similar probs

Suffers not differs. Autocorrect

Sm - I'm trying to pick through that post!

tbh isn't about individuals, though I did name dittany in the OP as an example of what is happening to the FS, as I see it.

the FS discuss/ cover highly sensitive issues such as sexual assault, abortion, DV, child abuse, pornography, etc in a way that AIBU type sections simply don't at times.
Over in those sections it's often a 'yeah' or 'nay' - in the FS its usually given a wider, 'political' consideration i.e. why does this happen? , rather than 'what should I do in these circs.'? That bit of the discussion in FM provides a wider learning point. So FS trolls, IME, target the FS because of that reason - it empowers women in general rather than providing advise how to react in the specific.

No, edd. First, something needs to be done about the trolls who post misogyny, rape jokes, and tell us how we should run the feminism board. Ta muchly.

why should dittany change her name to blend in better ?

that would be silly, because whatever scottishmummy says, she would be instantly recognisable anyway

and for that, I applaud her

There's something in that head? If you're going to make wildly improbable assertions, AF, I do think you should show the evidence

What slhilly said...

You can't accuse edd of having a brain without any evidence. It's not fair on him.

I said head not brain

mnhq has always advised circumspect and safe,we all recall the trolls and frauds who have maliciously caused hurt.and this is why posters shouldn't be lulled into a belief that mn or fem topic is safe and can discuss v personal harrowing circumstances without trolls or intrusion. the fem topic board are not any different to any other topic inc aibu.there may be an expectation/hope of different treatment but realistically how legitimate is it on an open discursive board?

You just know you could look in one ear and see out the other...