The departure of dittany

[Pan]

I only know that she has left, and in her post she didn't say much as to why, though some people can speculate and imagine why.

Quite a few days ago (last weekend I think) there were threads that pinpointed the lack of consideration that MNHQ has toward the sort of trolls that infest the FS section from time to time - different in nature and purpose to your average troll that infects MN from time to time.

It may well be that d. is in contact with regular posters whom she trusts. I don't know.

What I do know is that d. was a fabulous source of invigoration and illumination to a lot of posters, myself included, though we didn't always agree with her.

I would like a review from MNHQ of their current "talk guidlines" policy, in order that the FS is provided with a consideration that recognises the particular vulnerability that it experiences.

D. left for her own reasons - but this presents itself as a sort of 'test case' for MN to respond sensitively.

Would anyone agree and post here in support of this?

The trolls can be ignored. The hostility of regular MNers whose main interest in this section is to get rid of it is harder to deal with. I know that things have gotten worse because I'm posting here more. When the discussions are flowing I lurk and learn.

Pan, measured and eloquent as usual.

yes, in another defence of the thread, and dittany -she doesn't attack a person - it's the argument she focuses on. One of the many things admirable about her. Well thought out.

nah,you see the fem board antifeminst troll hunters got there calling me and countless many as troll.you see there is an ethos of cant say that here and im bemused you feel the fem topic need different or alternative consideration

finite...you are correct in your assumption

Yes FI. The threads become page after page of quotes and insults, with the regular posters getting deleted for calling troll.

Pan I completely disagree with you about dittany. She attacked me personally a number of times. The only person to do this in four years, which says a lot to me.

That is why it is dangerous to link your argument to one particular poster. Make the argument by all means, but be careful about your chosen figurehead.

The thing is that I come across you when lurking in Relationships, AF, so i know your posting style and it is not as the Message deleted... posts portray it to be.

Bob, I thought you had abandoned your mega ego-trip

and here you are again

like a moth to a flame

or summat

I suppose the difference of MN to other boards and fora is that usually they have moderators, and MN don't and so the dynamic is different.

IMO MN FS section in particular is attracting posters who if they were on other boards would have been sent warning PMs and told off for inflammatory and trolling posts.
In MN we "police" the threads ourselves and there is little consensus on what is an acceptable post and one that deserves deletion.

If we are going to keep this section, I feel because of it's nature, we need a committed moderator for it in order to keep it flowing and civil, and relevant too.

Finite, i'm dead nice, me

The Feminist section is not special. There is nothing about a feminist be they radical or not that requires protection or special treatment. As we are often informed on that Board feminisim is a political movement - proponents of any movement need to accept people disagree with them. Comparisons with relationship or SN boards are spurious.

If you chose to fight for your cause and state your position at every opportunity then you need to do so in the knowledge that you people will disagree. And your chosen position is no more worthy than theirs, particulary on a general Internet forum.

What I don't understand at all is that you complain about this bob person and then lavish him/her with loads of attention. Why do you even engage?

General 'you' of course.

problem is, some troll here think they deserve special treatment

I'm not sure i would necessarily enjoy being on the end of your straight talking, AF, but I can see it's always done for the right reasons and because it needs saying.

Bob, on the other hand, always seems slightly paranoid and self involved.

The very word 'feminism' is enough to attract angry trolls.

you are very wise, Finite

ok Spero - point taken. Dittany is a totem on this thread, so I don't disregard what you say at all.

Ooh, I feel very honoured!