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Man cleared of rape because he was too drunk to realise which bed he was in.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 26/02/2011 12:29

Sorry DM but here.

This guy's girlfriend refused sex, he stumbled into another room "by accident" and started having sex with the woman in the bed there.

He was cleared of rape.

There is so much wrong with this that I don't know where to start. I imagine he's been cleared because he didn't intend (apparently) to commit a crime. But the fact is that neither woman had consented to sex with him, so whoever he decided to penetrate it would have been rape. He seems to have been cleared on the grounds that if he had walked back into his (non-consenting) girlfriend's room and penetrated her without further ado, that would not have been rape. It obviously would have been.

:( scared and Angry all at once.

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sethstarkaddersmackerel · 02/03/2011 23:33

I'm not surprised you're angry.
being torn apart by his lawyer must have been horrendous. It's appalling that in 2011 the victim is still on trial.

AyeRobot · 02/03/2011 23:34

What was the CPS lawyer like? Did they ask the questions you expected them to ask? Did they miss anything out?

sethstarkaddersmackerel · 02/03/2011 23:34

I have to go to bed now, hope you can manage to get some sleep.
your little girl sounds lovely.

BrokenGirl11 · 02/03/2011 23:35

prolesworth im so sad i dont know where i can go from here i really am so scared now what has happened to my life. i cant move on im in such a dark place.

BrokenGirl11 · 02/03/2011 23:41

The cps missed out the fact he was not aressted for three days. that he got to decide when he would bring his self in as the police belived he could have a gun as he had befor and the people that lived in the flat were at risk around him none of this was said but it was said he handded hisself in on the saturday that is a lie when i sked cps why this was allowed he said it dose not matter what happened b4 or after its just what he did to you in the car. I just thought well why when its a fact?

StayFrosty · 02/03/2011 23:42

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Prolesworth · 02/03/2011 23:43

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BrokenGirl11 · 02/03/2011 23:45

I use to love that walking with the buggy but i cant now we just stay here where we are safe together good night all i just hope the rape crisis lady can help me.

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AyeRobot · 02/03/2011 23:48

Hope you manage to get some sleep, BG. Let us know how you get on tomorrow. We believe you, even if the jury didn't. And the women from rape crisis will believe you too.

Prolesworth · 02/03/2011 23:59

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BrokenGirl11 · 03/03/2011 00:02

yes if you could do that it would be nice dont understand it all sorry but it would be nice if i felt like it i could talk to some of you again. good night all will be a shit one for me but hope you all sleep well. tomorrow is another day .

Prolesworth · 03/03/2011 00:10

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BrokenGirl11 · 03/03/2011 21:59

I know now i will never get justice i know im just another girl that has been let down by the justice system. Every one involved in my case will move on forget my face. I wont let him beat me anymore he wont take no more tears i wont be afraid i will some how block him out. I tonight will stab him in his heart in my dreams... he will be dead in my mind he wont be able to hurt me no more. im sorry to the the next girl that will be be hurt by his hands i did try to stop this i fought to stop this but they let him go i feel for you because you will feel what i feel a broken girl never to be the same again.. im so sorry .

Prolesworth · 03/03/2011 22:23

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BrokenGirl11 · 03/03/2011 23:35

yes they let that dirty beast walk free and i hate them all.. cant understand it still the lady from rape crisis said she is still in shock she said she has never been involved with a rape case like mine.
she said how i should be so proud of my self and that more than likly will get compensation but guilty i wont get justice i wont get she belives the same as me that it will only be time b4 he hurts again. she is doing some research to see if she can find some answers and will call me in a couple of days. very nice lady but no one can really help me its to late they let him go to hurt again i got no justice when it was all in there face... how did i consent sex when i was strangled and punched so many photos how did they say not guilty they are so evil all of them.

AyeRobot · 03/03/2011 23:42

Oh, brokengirl, it's so bloody frustrating. It makes me so angry that he did this too you and that other people have let you down so badly.

Did the rape crisis women offer you any counselling?

Prolesworth · 03/03/2011 23:45

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 04/03/2011 14:20

Oh god Brokengirl I'm so sorry to hear what he did to you, and that you haven't had the chance to see him locked up for his crimes against you. I hope the support on here is helping you in some tiny way, and that your little girl and the love of your friends are making each day more bearable for you. There is a still a big beautiful world out there and one day soon you're going to feel ready to get out there again.

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BrokenGirl11 · 04/03/2011 22:40

I want to say thankyou all for the lovely messages taking time out to listen to me today i put on nice clean clothes opened my blinds and even took my little girl for lunch, that dirty scum bag has took to much of my time tears and pain but i have to let go justice is bull shit! there is none for girls like me its so so sad. But he cant spoil my little girls life so now i put her first just want his scary face out of my bloody head. hope you all have a lovely weekend. and and one on the march please scream for me.. x x

Prolesworth · 04/03/2011 22:42

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BrokenGirl11 · 04/03/2011 23:05

thankyou and i will when you baby talk all its nice to have some adult chat just not sure how to use im stuck on this page ha x

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 05/03/2011 15:59

Good for you, BG, bloody good for you.

Try and keep that spirit as much as you can. That shithead is not going to win.

But if you want to vent, please come back, we are always willing to listen to you. Smile