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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Man cleared of rape because he was too drunk to realise which bed he was in.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 26/02/2011 12:29

Sorry DM but here.

This guy's girlfriend refused sex, he stumbled into another room "by accident" and started having sex with the woman in the bed there.

He was cleared of rape.

There is so much wrong with this that I don't know where to start. I imagine he's been cleared because he didn't intend (apparently) to commit a crime. But the fact is that neither woman had consented to sex with him, so whoever he decided to penetrate it would have been rape. He seems to have been cleared on the grounds that if he had walked back into his (non-consenting) girlfriend's room and penetrated her without further ado, that would not have been rape. It obviously would have been.

:( scared and Angry all at once.

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 08/03/2011 15:33

Ah, that's good, Prolesworth. Can you link to a source?

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 08/03/2011 15:34

Yeah exactly MQ :(

Have you got a link for that, Proles?

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 08/03/2011 15:34

x-posts :)

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Prolesworth · 08/03/2011 15:40

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JeaninePattibone · 08/03/2011 15:47

@InmaculadaConcepcion,

Not sure I have any specific answers, but I do think it needs to be seen less as a technical legal problem and more as a cultural and political one.

SmashingNarcissistsMirrors · 08/03/2011 15:47

going by the facts in the article alone (which is all i have to go by) i am absolutely shocked by this case.

his defence is absolutely unbelievable.

in what other criminal acts can alcohol be seen to diminish your responsibility / judgement to be able to use it as an excuse?

poor woman.

JeaninePattibone · 08/03/2011 15:50

You see, I didn't like the wording of the bit about false claims at all. It pre judges the outcome of be research - I think rape-apologists will be all over that one.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 08/03/2011 15:56

No Jean, they've done the research that shows they are uncommon already.

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sethstarkaddersmackerel · 08/03/2011 16:18

'Not sure I have any specific answers, but I do think it needs to be seen less as a technical legal problem and more as a cultural and political one.'

that's interesting. I think it's both - you can find technical solutions to cultural problems.

ambarth · 08/03/2011 19:23

So sorry and angry on your behalf brokengirl. What the hell was wrong with that jury.

The Daily mail is contributing to the pereption that false allegations are common. They continually seem to run stories of false allegations. That paper is vile. The result is juries like brokengirl faced.It makes my blood boil.

ambarth · 08/03/2011 19:24

Perception

OrangeClouds · 09/03/2011 15:18

The original story has finally been covered by someone other than the Mail. Telegraph

JeaninePattibone · 09/03/2011 18:00

As I said yesterday,, the torygraph has just churned the Mail's story. There is no original reporting in that short price, it even directly quotes the Mail.

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