This board is the most frightening .

[fangbanger]

Apparently.

I am a little saddened that a forum mostly used by women, has decided that the feminist boards are the most frightening of the forum.

Why do we feel that is? What can be done to prevent people from feeling so intimidated that they are too scared t post?

yes grace i must agree with the others, Dittany afaiac, is not inconsistant and is crystal clear about who is to blame. you either must be mistaken or you should go and get a quote to back up your claim. it's not something i would ask usually, but i think that attacks the very core of dittany's beliefs

dittany my answer is this
what do i as a non feminist want from the feminist board?
nothing that i wouldn't accept from the rest of the board, the chance to debate civilly and state my opinion

I'm looking for quotes.

Dittany: It's not cross wired Prolesworth. It's something else, and it's not nice.

Could you clarify?

i dont look at the feminism/womens right board as im not a feminist, not that im frightened, its just not my cup of tea, infact i didnt notice it until i read this as it was in most active

and no im not a doormat, im my experience feminists seem to think this of women who dont share their point of view!

although of course im not against a good feminist at times, its just not m cup of tea!

I'm bewildered as to where AG could have got the idea from, I've never seen Dittany be anything but uncompromisingly and eloquently opposed to that sort of argument.
It's the kind of thing she rips to little shreds, in a very convincing and thorough way.

"aviatrix Sun 27-Feb-11 08:33:03
Hymie, what do you think about all-women shortlists?"

Its a tricky one as I am against anything that discriminates against ability, but at the same time balance is important. If 2 candidates were equal then it makes sense to employ the one that might help redress any inbalance, but otherwise no, ability all the way should be the deciding factor. Anything else is just condescending.

funny how the people who are s against all woman shortlists never seem to find a problem with the all male shortlists we have had in politics etc for the last 2513457825 years

I'm against default favouring. Period.

I am genuinely curious here, Custardo and Glamour. If you say are a non-feminist, then what does that mean? That men and women do not deserve equal treatment, or that we have equal opportunity already, or that it does not matter, or that it is impossible to address? Or something else?

Apparently the little bunch of us on Sleb Twaddle who fancy the butt off of Richard Armitage are quite terrifying too !

How could anyone accuse Dittany of supporting that misogynistic bollocks??????

You're either deluded or malicious Ageing Grace.

Custy - genuinely curious, why don't you call yourself a feminist?

You mean this thread AgingGrace? What's wrong with it?

You could always drag it back to the subject of politeness, acquiescene, etc. I don't know why you found it all too much....

And it is simply bizarre to characterise Dittany's POV about porny dress = an invitation to rape in the way you have. She has also never said that all men are rapists, that's just a stereotype of what feminists think.

Are you confusing her with someone else or is something else going on here?

i dont believe the root of societies ills is the inequality of the sexes, whilst i do accept this exists, as i accept that there are many inequalities that exist, my belief system is rooted int eh division of labour

SalandersBro wrote - "it is possible to see someone elses's perspective and aslo hold your own. but that seems tricky round here. so i'll leave you to it."

I've changed my mind on some issues over the past several months after debates in this feminist section because I found views that opposed mine were wiser and more sensible positions to adopt.

I am anti-porn. However, I definitely see the pro-porn people's perspective and respect at least some supporters of porn who I happen to know from other threads have feminist values close to their heart on other issues, but they haven't persuaded me that their view on porn is one I should agree with. We cross swords from time to time, regroup, polish our arguments and have another go.

How willing are you to see the view of people who disagree with you?

There is no way that Grace could ever have come to that conclusion from any of Dittanys posts. It is a vicious lie concocted purely to cause offence.

Ah. Are you a marxist? I have a vague recollection of marxist theory on a issues like racism being this is a distraction from the real inequality between the workers and the rich.

custardo, your argument merely based on the economics of female oppression, whereas the tentacles of the oppression of women reaches much further than simple economics or class.