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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is it easier to be a feminist if you are a lesbian?

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PosieParker · 18/08/2010 09:54

Or are there really men out there that hold feminist values dear too?

Last night my DH said he called someone at work a 'pussy', I nearly choked on my food, since when is such language okay? Whilst my DH can be quite laddish and very far from feminist values I was attracted to him because he's quite masculine. I often wonder whether a more progressive and less Neanderthal man would get my attention or whether I'd find him to emasculated?

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Xenia · 20/08/2010 10:56

Ah,, well that might explain things.. laughing as I type.

Sakura · 20/08/2010 11:01

On one side Xenia Smile
The other side owned coal mines

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LeninGrad · 20/08/2010 11:43

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 20/08/2010 12:00

I definitely find your existence a help to my survival Lenin Grin

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TheButterflyEffect · 20/08/2010 13:24

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 20/08/2010 13:29

I think that's the idea, isn't it TBE. It's where the extreme Christian (and other) Right and the pornographers meet.

swallowedAfly · 20/08/2010 13:33

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Sakura · 20/08/2010 13:41

I understand the concept of being essentially straight or gay or bi. It's the labelling I don't get.
For example, just reading my posts back I realized that some would describe me as bi. I just see myself as not choosy/chaotic, but in a liberated sort of way. My encounters have been self-driven, rather than passive, so it wasn't as though I just accepted anyone who came along. I've always really fancied my partners on a really primal level.

I also don't understand how bisexuality has negative connotations SaF. In what way?

But now that you've mentioned it I can understand why labelling is a good political move because then you can organize etc.

One of my best mates is a gay man. He's been out since we were 16 but he was one of the ones in the group of teenagers I used to hang around with, and he has fancied girls.
He remembers writing a love letter to a girl class mate when he was 8 or so. He also slept with girls but I think that was just to fit in with his mates.
Before he came out I wanted to marry him even though I didn't fancy him, because I instinctively knew it'd be an equal relationship!
But he is essentially gay, there's no doubt about that. I've always thought it was obvious that people were essentially gay, not least because of the hassle society gives them. I remember him going through the painful process of trying to get the message accross to his dad that he was gay. He also said that before coming out he always had to sit on his hands to hide his gayness from other boys.

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Sakura · 20/08/2010 13:56

I agree about physical attractiveness. Fancying someone encompasses so many things, not just looks. But obviously looks are part of it. And it's interesting how we don't all go for the same type.

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