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MrsWeasley · 09/05/2007 11:38

Is anyone else getting really excited (borderline obsessed)about he new HP book?
I have re-read all the other 6 and everytime I scan down active convos and see "Potty" I heart skips a beat or I hold my breath whilst my eyes focus!!

Please tell me it isn't only me and my DC that are counting the days (hours, minutes, seconds...)

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pudding77 · 11/05/2007 13:03

Agree singingmum, do we think Draco might turn out good yet?

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 13:10

This thread still going strong I see...great.
Yes, I think JK will want to show Draco's sensitive side, that he's not a one-dimensional "bad guy" character. Also have a hunch she might stick her neck out on the last one and have Draco and Neville run off together. After all, Draco was always hanging around with the two latent homosexuals, Crabbe and Goyle. I'm sure some US Comparative Lit. academic has already written research papers on "Queering the Harry Potter series"...

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 13:13

I was right . See here

persephonesnape · 11/05/2007 13:16

Re Draco being good - where is Lucius at the mo? Azkabhan? i think escaping his fathers influence would have been a bit better a few years ago.

how many 16/17 year olds have revelatory experiences that change their entire mindsets? draco could actually be for the chop...

LOVE the idea that harrys, 'lilys eyes' are the horcrux and the sacrifice is blindness. that is FABuLOUS!

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 13:18

To save you the bother of reading this article, here are a couple of hilarious snippets:

" Rowling has never stated or even implied that the Potter books are gay allegory, but her language and story effortlessly lend themselves to such a reading...."

" In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Rowling seems to play more openly with a gay reading of the books. During an argument with Harry, the obnoxious Dudley mentions that his cousin spoke in his sleep about someone named Cedric, lashing out, ?Who?s Cedric?your boyfriend?? In the ensuing argument, Dudley seems to have a homosexual panic attack when Harry takes out his wand: ?Don?t point that thing at me,? he says repeatedly. Much has already been written about Harry?s physical and psychological maturation in Order of the Phoenix and, consistent with that change, the young wizard?s wand is also described in more phallic terms."

persephonesnape · 11/05/2007 13:25

at DD. I love analysis of potter books. I do think a lot of the gay perspective stuff is projection and wishful thinking. although i guess there is an anaolgy with a wand being equivilant to a gun (but more interesting!)and guns are often depicted as phallic.

if anyone is missing their potter books, and getting a little impatioent ofr the next instalment, may i reccomend googling 'magical maeve' suprisingly well written fanfic with a snape persepctive.

singingmum · 11/05/2007 13:28

OMG what a bunch of morons either writing or/and appearing in that article.
As for the patronus being a phalic symbol and sexually described what a sicko.I see nothing phallic about the patronus especially as they can be anything inc. swans and rabbits etc.

BandofMothers · 11/05/2007 13:31

Oh FFS. What a load of Bollocks.
Dr Daddy, GUFFAW. Really. People can turn anything into rude, homo, pervy ritual shite if they want to. Bloody Christians and their holier than thou rubbish.
I think probably more the scar as horcrux than his eyes. Altho perhaps the loss of his power with the eradication of the scar.
Sounds more like something JKR would go with. I think the loss of his eyes, might be a bit gross.

BandofMothers · 11/05/2007 13:34

I also have a watch on this thread, but am not about it. HAve to check it often or lose track of the suppositions

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 13:36

I know singingmum; these kind of readings just make me laugh tbh. Before working in IT I used to be a historian (hence the Dr) working in the field of medieval studies. Conferences in the US in the early / mid nineties were hilarious, as everything was "queering" this and a "gay reading" of that...My all time fave paper title was: "Queering the Medieval Male Nipple" wtf?? No, I didn't bother to attend the paper.

EachPeachPearPlum · 11/05/2007 13:53

Isn't Voldemort's snake supposed to be a horcrux too? So it's the snake, the diary, the ring, the locket, the cup and maybe one more?

BandofMothers · 11/05/2007 13:55

That sounds right to me

I can see the scar being an accidental horcrux, but not the eyes, cos doesn't V have to do magic to make a horcrux. Don't think he would purposefully put part of his soul in Harry tbh.

LazyLine · 11/05/2007 13:56

It has been bandied about that Nagini is a Horcrux, although some say that it is unlikely as she is a living being that is easily killed. All of the other Horcruxes needed to be destroyed in a specific way. If the snake were to be killed inadvertently, ooops!

LazyLine · 11/05/2007 13:57

You have to kill someone to make a Horcrux.

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 14:02

Isn't it the killing of a person that allows the division of the soul? The horcrux itself is then the receptacle with the part of soul stored in it...Am I right?

pudding77 · 11/05/2007 14:04

DrDaddy, I once wrote an essay on homosexual themes in Top Gun - though admittedly that probably isn't that difficult to do

I don't think Harry will lose his magic tbh, he wouldn't have anything in his life then and imo think that would be a bit of an anti-climax!

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 14:04

What about the necklace that was put around Katie Bell's (??) neck in Hogsmeade? Wasn't that a horcrux too?

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 14:05

Always wondered what the meaning of "take my breath away" was!! Sorry, TMI

pudding77 · 11/05/2007 14:05

From Wikipedia:
"Creating a Horcrux requires an act of violence and supreme wrong: the murder of an individual, which is "the supreme act of evil", that "rips the soul apart". The soul of the creator is split, and a spell is cast to infuse one portion of the soul into the intended object, which becomes a Horcrux"

DrDaddy · 11/05/2007 14:06

Thanks pudding!

BandofMothers · 11/05/2007 14:07

Yes, but he had just killed Harry's parents so it's not unlikely that the scar could be one really is it??

LazyLine · 11/05/2007 14:16

But it would have to be intended on Voldie's part. I can't see why he would choose to place a part of his soul into a baby.

the only other explanation would be that he intended to create a Horcrux into something else, using Harry's death to make the spell work. Except it went wrong because he didn't kill him, and as a side effect, part of his sould ended up in Harry?

Rosylily · 11/05/2007 14:20

He had planned to kill Harry who he supposed from the prophecy to be a threat, it was a significant killing...he must have been planning to do a horcrux...he would have done the spell and then the killing of Harry failed....maybe at Godrics hollow they will find a significant object a horcrux or the intended horcrux....

Rosylily · 11/05/2007 14:29

And of course it's all true too Just realised that I'm getting a bit carried away

LazyLine · 11/05/2007 14:35

LOL Rose

I don't think that Voldie would have though Harry was a significant kill though. Sure, there was a prophesy but I can't believe that such a megalomaniac would think that a baby could actually be a threat to him or that a baby produced by a Mudblood could create any trouble for him.

I imagine him going to Godrics Hollow to quickly finish the Potters off to reassure his followers of his supremacy, never imagining it would turn out as it did.

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