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Riders - Jilly Cooper Book Club

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JillyCooperBookClub · 14/03/2016 09:53

It was a perfect spring day. Thickening crimson buds fretted a love-in-the-mist blue sky. The banks were draped with crocuses of the same Lenten purple as the altar cloth. A host of golden daffodils, retarded by the bitter winter, had just reached their prime and nodded their pale heads in approval.

Thus Helen falls for Rupert, and I fell for Jilly Cooper: against our upbringing and our better judgement, and despite every single red flag.

Riders wasn't my first Jilly Cooper, but the first I sought out, after a few stolen pages of another under dappled sun on Guide Camp as a teenager.

It starts deceptively happily, with gymkhanas and very proper sexless dates. But we mustn't be fooled: at every point every character is being judged by every other, and found wanting. Character flaws, damaging childhoods, trauma and tragedy: frankly it's a wonder any one of them made it to adulthood.

Rupert's friendship with Billy predates the neglect and misery of his childhood, so unsurprisingly it is the only healthy and unconditional human relationship he has.

There couldn't be much wrong with Rupert if he inspired friendship like this.

Rupert shivered, suddenly reminded of the desolation of Sunday nights at school, summoned by bells to Evensong, followed by cold ham and bread and marge for supper, and everyone else coming back feeling homesick from days out with their parents. Rupert had never really had a proper home to feel sick about.

And indeed it will be some years before he finds one.

We discussed on the general thread that Rupert is a bit, well, rapey. In Riders he has precisely zero respect for any woman's body autonomy (the very first time he and Helen meet he thrusts his hand into her jumper) and once he has any declared rights over a woman he takes absolute possession of her body.

With a colossal feeling of triumph he pushed her back on to the bed and began to move downwards, kissing her ribs, then her belly.

"No," she gasped, grabbing his head.

Firmly he removed her hands. "Shut up. You're mine now, to do exactly what I like with."

The foursome in Kenya is deeply, deeply troubling. Billy doesn't seem to realise how unwilling Helen is until he has raped her; Rupert is more concerned with how his friends will perceive them, and his response to finding her as dry as a marathon runner's throat is to declare her "useless"; Janey is so turned on by Rupert she doesn't stop to think about it. All three of them assault her together, until she escapes.

Any minute she expected an enraged Rupert to appear and drag her back to the torture chamber.

But the others were enjoying themselves. [...] Playing games of their own, they carried on till morning.

Days later, she falls for Jake: physically and romantically the exact opposite of Rupert. It was inevitable, surely, and as little as I like her I have the greatest sympathy. But I'll never forgive Jake as long as I live.

When I first read Riders I identified strongly with Tory. Poor unloved Tory - considered a fat failure, whilst in truth neither fat nor failing. Jilly is horribly judgemental about an ounce of spare fat on anyone, but she shows us that however miserable Tory might be, she is beautiful and perfect:

She was tallish and big boned, with a huge bust that bounced up and down as she walked. However she stood on the scales, she weighed eleven stone.

(Note: at 5'8", "tallish", that's a BMI of 23.4, and she promptly loses nine pounds when she falls in love, taking her to 22.5)

Actually she was much less far without her clothes on; rather splendid, in fact.

Tory is capable and loyal and loving and stoic and all the characteristics of a balanced human being. She doesn't expect Jake to love her; it's enough that she loves him.

"She loved you," said Fen bitterly. "Isa, Darklis, me, the horses, Wolf, were only extensions of how much she loved you. She knew you didn't love her, but she felt you needed her. That made life easier, that was enough."

"Oh, Christ," Jake groaned, putting his head in his hands. "I only realised in LA how much I loved her. [...] She always seemed so strong that she could cope with anything. I didn't realise I meant so much to her."

[...]

Frantic, he took her in his arms, trying to warm some life into the frail body.

"Don't die," he pleaded for the thousandth time. "Please don't die."

"Jake," came the faintest, faintest whisper.

I was going to talk about snobbery and class, and the animals, and the culture of celebrity, and the freedom of wealth, and Billy, and Malise, and political marriages, and fidelity, but I can't, because tears are streaming down my face yet again and my nose is running. So to cheer myself up, and to evidence Jilly's brilliance, I'll leave you with my favourite exchange:

"Will it be very fancy tonight?"
"Not particularly."
"Shall I wear pants?
Rupert's eyes gleamed. That was getting somewhere. "Certainly not," he said.
[...]
"Chicken, you are wearing pants. What's this?" he pinged the elastic."
"Panties," said Helen quickly. "You thought I'd go to a party without panties?"

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BalloonSlayer · 26/03/2016 13:14

Oh I see what you mean. Grin

I guess everyone is self-serving. even Tory:

Tory fancies Jake but what she wants most of all is to be rescued from her mother. So she buys the horse, and essentially buys Jake as well, and sets about trying to create the home she always wanted and, by being a doormat, to keep Jake in it. She seems like the selfless wife but that's only because she is terrified of losing him. And she wins him back by attempting suicide . . . IRL that doesn't usually have that effect (although Jake was "coming back to her anyway")

Much is made of Helen's religious and puritan nature, eg going to Church and asking God to make her more tolerant when Janey has pissed her off with her selfishness. Yet, as I have said before, she's not so bloody pure when she sleeps with a married man [Harold Mountjoy] is she? Then during her courtship with Rupert she can clearly see that he has been shagging married women (eg Grania Pringle) and that doesn't seem to put her off him one iota. She is more worried by him eating South African oranges in the street. Then as soon as they get married she is suddenly Mrs Pure and Virtuous. Maybe, a psychiatrist would say, she married Rupert subconsciously knowing he would behave like that and that she would therefore look like an innocent victim in comparison, thus regaining the moral high ground she lost by her affair with Harold Mountjoy. Or perhaps she is constantly trying to regain her innocence or atone for her sins by being punished by having such a painfully unfaithful husband.

Trills · 26/03/2016 13:17

I'd forgotten the suicide - not got as far as that yet.

Yes everyone attempts to be self-serving - they are not all very good at it though!

MrsHathaway · 26/03/2016 17:53

Do reread the suicide: I think you've got it wrong.

She works out what will actually kill her. There's nothing more she can do for Jake and she believes (wrongly) that he's happy with Helen, who is her exact opposite in just about every way (thin, clever, glamorous, popular), and in a mirror to the beginning of the book she simply can't live without him.

She takes the poison because she believes it will work. She times it so nobody will be about to rescue her. It's not a cry for help, it's planned life ending.

BalloonSlayer · 26/03/2016 18:14

Yes I know that MrsHathaway, poor Tory, Sad but it doesn't work does it? And I am uncomfortable with the impression it gives to naive readers; that a grand gesture such as that will do the trick.

In real life it would either have worked - so that's that. Or not worked and been yet another humiliation piled on to poor Tory. Suicide attempts almost never result in happy endings in real life.

Trills · 26/03/2016 18:28

I've just read it and I believe that she meant it. Everyone was very surprised that she didn't die. Jake's gypsy magic remedies (and love) save her. Envy (boak)

I do agree that it sends the message that a dramatic gesture of "Look how sad I am" will make your straying man come back - even if that's not what Tory intended to do.

MrsHathaway · 26/03/2016 20:24

She's hours from death when he arrives ::howl::

He does love her from then on - perhaps in the way he loves a horse or a dog, and maybe he isn't capable of human love. Without spoilers, their relationship is one of the better ones.

As I've said, I'm far too invested in Tory. I need her to be happy.

Her children are awful. Actually, all the children in it are awful in different ways.

BalloonSlayer · 26/03/2016 22:26

I agree. I have been unkind to her.

I have perhaps been projecting MN values on Tory:

"Change the locks Sell the horses. Convert the stables to holiday homes. Contact the CSA"

Trills · 26/03/2016 23:16

MN would be highly unconvinced about Fen and Dino getting married as well.

They've not even really dated, and now she's announcing it on TV?

Grand gestures are not all they're made out to be.

ChessieFL · 27/03/2016 06:45

Hardly any of the Jilly relationships would stand up to MN scrutiny!

TwentyOneGuns · 27/03/2016 09:50

Why do you say the Lovell children are awful MrsHathaway? Iirc they're not even mentioned that much except to say how happy and relaxed the family is around the horses and when they're being bullied at school over Jake and Helen.

MrsHathaway · 27/03/2016 10:30

From memory they're just as bad at taking Tory for granted. They're also loud and sweary at events when Jake takes them. Isa is an utter shit later, of course, but Spoilers.

Tbh it just feels like Jilly doesn't like people at all until they're adults. She has a particular distaste for infants because of possetting. In Jilly world children are loud and rude and demanding, or weak and annoying and demanding.

TwentyOneGuns · 27/03/2016 11:43

That's true, she doesn't write sympathetically about any of the kids really does she. I thought that too about Isa but won't say any more :)

Trills · 27/03/2016 12:48

The Lovell kids in Riders are just "nice kids, play with the horses, relaxed and happy" to contrast with Marcus and Tab. They don't really have much of a personality (yet).

JillyTheDependableBoot · 27/03/2016 13:07

Darklis doesn't appear in any subsequent books, does she? I imagine the example her home life gave her would result in her becoming a bit of a doormat and marrying an abusive/unfaithful man.

MrsHathaway · 27/03/2016 13:14

Doesn't Dino scream at them just as much as Fen for taking advantage? That has to be in Riders.

Trills · 27/03/2016 14:08

But they are only small children, Fen is old enough to know better and do things for herself.

BeautifulMaudOHara · 28/03/2016 09:25

No, Jilly doesn't like children, except as plot devices for showing aspects of an adult's character, eg, Rupert is vile to Marcus and adoring of Tabitha. There's hardly any mention of the children when spoilers spoilers follow....

Helen and Jake run off. Even though they've 4 children between them.

JolieMadame · 28/03/2016 09:40

Violet and Eddie are ok, although they take advantage of Daisy a bit. No more so than normal kids do though!

BeautifulMaudOHara · 29/03/2016 11:01

I was thinking about this last night and I think one of the things Jilly does well is write about female desire - plenty of her female characters like sex and I don't know that that was terribly common in writing from the 70s (other than feminist writing) was it? Maybe I'm completely wrong.

Thurlow · 29/03/2016 12:16

That's very true, Maud. Jilly is certainly all for her female characters having ambition and desire, and they operate on the same level as men as well. Obviously there's still a lot of anti-feminist stuff in there and the women are often talked down to and constantly sexually harassed - but still, Janey, Perdita, Fen, Cameron, they all have careers alongside men and they aren't criticised in anyway for having them.

The other thing that struck me was that for all these books are 'bonkbusters', you never really see a sex scene between two characters who are really meant to be together. So you get loads of Ruper sex scenes, but not with who he eventually falls in love with. Or you get Fen and Enrico, but not Fen and Dino.

JillyTheDependableBoot · 29/03/2016 14:09

That's very true about the sex scenes - the only Rupert and Taggie one I can think of is an aside about him painting her labia with olive oil prior to photographing her in the nude, which was clearly put in to make it clear that Taggie is a good wife in the bedroom as well as in the kitchen, but has never rang true to me. I'm sure she would think it a horrible waste of good EVOO.

Thurlow · 29/03/2016 14:14

Yes, I never thought Taggie would turn out to be like that either!

JillyTheDependableBoot · 29/03/2016 14:16

Actually I think quite a few novels from that period are honest about female sexuality, albeit in a rather overblown way - Judith Krantz, Rona Jaffe, Marge Piercey et al (although I suppose the latter two are feminist writers).

I've also just finished reading Noel Streatfeild's Saplings, which was published in 1945 and has female sexual desire as a key theme. Many of the other Persephone books do too.

MrsHathaway · 29/03/2016 17:01

I think that's a very astute observation about marital sex. Off the top of my head, once a couple is married we only see foreplay or games with others.

And I'm reminded that Billy is obsessed with shaving Janey's bush - gets him very excited. I'm guessing that was an unusual preference in 1973-1984?

Thurlow · 29/03/2016 17:07

Actually, we do see Janey and Billy having sex, don't we? But then I never thought Jilly really approved of Janey and Billy...