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Riders - Jilly Cooper Book Club

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JillyCooperBookClub · 14/03/2016 09:53

It was a perfect spring day. Thickening crimson buds fretted a love-in-the-mist blue sky. The banks were draped with crocuses of the same Lenten purple as the altar cloth. A host of golden daffodils, retarded by the bitter winter, had just reached their prime and nodded their pale heads in approval.

Thus Helen falls for Rupert, and I fell for Jilly Cooper: against our upbringing and our better judgement, and despite every single red flag.

Riders wasn't my first Jilly Cooper, but the first I sought out, after a few stolen pages of another under dappled sun on Guide Camp as a teenager.

It starts deceptively happily, with gymkhanas and very proper sexless dates. But we mustn't be fooled: at every point every character is being judged by every other, and found wanting. Character flaws, damaging childhoods, trauma and tragedy: frankly it's a wonder any one of them made it to adulthood.

Rupert's friendship with Billy predates the neglect and misery of his childhood, so unsurprisingly it is the only healthy and unconditional human relationship he has.

There couldn't be much wrong with Rupert if he inspired friendship like this.

Rupert shivered, suddenly reminded of the desolation of Sunday nights at school, summoned by bells to Evensong, followed by cold ham and bread and marge for supper, and everyone else coming back feeling homesick from days out with their parents. Rupert had never really had a proper home to feel sick about.

And indeed it will be some years before he finds one.

We discussed on the general thread that Rupert is a bit, well, rapey. In Riders he has precisely zero respect for any woman's body autonomy (the very first time he and Helen meet he thrusts his hand into her jumper) and once he has any declared rights over a woman he takes absolute possession of her body.

With a colossal feeling of triumph he pushed her back on to the bed and began to move downwards, kissing her ribs, then her belly.

"No," she gasped, grabbing his head.

Firmly he removed her hands. "Shut up. You're mine now, to do exactly what I like with."

The foursome in Kenya is deeply, deeply troubling. Billy doesn't seem to realise how unwilling Helen is until he has raped her; Rupert is more concerned with how his friends will perceive them, and his response to finding her as dry as a marathon runner's throat is to declare her "useless"; Janey is so turned on by Rupert she doesn't stop to think about it. All three of them assault her together, until she escapes.

Any minute she expected an enraged Rupert to appear and drag her back to the torture chamber.

But the others were enjoying themselves. [...] Playing games of their own, they carried on till morning.

Days later, she falls for Jake: physically and romantically the exact opposite of Rupert. It was inevitable, surely, and as little as I like her I have the greatest sympathy. But I'll never forgive Jake as long as I live.

When I first read Riders I identified strongly with Tory. Poor unloved Tory - considered a fat failure, whilst in truth neither fat nor failing. Jilly is horribly judgemental about an ounce of spare fat on anyone, but she shows us that however miserable Tory might be, she is beautiful and perfect:

She was tallish and big boned, with a huge bust that bounced up and down as she walked. However she stood on the scales, she weighed eleven stone.

(Note: at 5'8", "tallish", that's a BMI of 23.4, and she promptly loses nine pounds when she falls in love, taking her to 22.5)

Actually she was much less far without her clothes on; rather splendid, in fact.

Tory is capable and loyal and loving and stoic and all the characteristics of a balanced human being. She doesn't expect Jake to love her; it's enough that she loves him.

"She loved you," said Fen bitterly. "Isa, Darklis, me, the horses, Wolf, were only extensions of how much she loved you. She knew you didn't love her, but she felt you needed her. That made life easier, that was enough."

"Oh, Christ," Jake groaned, putting his head in his hands. "I only realised in LA how much I loved her. [...] She always seemed so strong that she could cope with anything. I didn't realise I meant so much to her."

[...]

Frantic, he took her in his arms, trying to warm some life into the frail body.

"Don't die," he pleaded for the thousandth time. "Please don't die."

"Jake," came the faintest, faintest whisper.

I was going to talk about snobbery and class, and the animals, and the culture of celebrity, and the freedom of wealth, and Billy, and Malise, and political marriages, and fidelity, but I can't, because tears are streaming down my face yet again and my nose is running. So to cheer myself up, and to evidence Jilly's brilliance, I'll leave you with my favourite exchange:

"Will it be very fancy tonight?"
"Not particularly."
"Shall I wear pants?
Rupert's eyes gleamed. That was getting somewhere. "Certainly not," he said.
[...]
"Chicken, you are wearing pants. What's this?" he pinged the elastic."
"Panties," said Helen quickly. "You thought I'd go to a party without panties?"

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GertrudeBadger · 13/04/2016 11:18

yes definitely! Looking forward to the re-reading!

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BalloonSlayer · 13/04/2016 12:41

So near the end of Riders!

I don't like the very end. It doesn't ring true.

I think Tory should have been asked out by a neighbouring farmer (some of them are very posh dontcha know). Having been persuaded by Fen to have her hair cut and streaked blonde, and pinched some of Fen's clothes as she now fits into them, she goes out with him with great trepidation and has an unexpectedly nice time. He has asked to see her again and she thinks she might, and puts her photo of Jake in a drawer. Then the doorbell rings and it's Jake, asking to come back. He gawps at her and her new slim, streaked, wanton glamour. She notices how weedy he is compared to the Farmer and how he stinks of fags. The book ends with them gazing at each other across the threshold, as she thinks about what she wants now.

(I wonder sometimes if The Man Who Made Husbands Jealous was Jilly's version of this ending.)

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GertrudeBadger · 13/04/2016 12:51

Yes, balloon I absolutely agree, that's exactly what ought to have happened, she gets someone devoted to her like Daisy in Polo - so much more satisfying...

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Trills · 13/04/2016 19:17

Moving on up!

The early Jillys definitely get better than Riders.

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BestIsWest · 13/04/2016 19:42

I missed this thread but must have read Riders about 15 times so don't need to re-read to catch up. I will try and read Rivals along with the new thread.

I am old enough to remember reading Riders when it first came out and being Shock at some of it especially the rape scene.

One of the things I love most about Jilly is the fantastic writing about the countryside. I think she is truly underrated as a descriptive writer. I also love all the literary references and the way she draws on her own life for much of the stories.

The Common Years, as mentioned above is a fantastic book and I really wish she had written more diaries.

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BeautifulMaudOHara · 13/04/2016 22:15

YY baloonslayer re the end of Riders and Tory

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BeautifulMaudOHara · 13/04/2016 22:17

Btw, this is Rannaldinni IMO
(I prob said so before)

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Pacothepidgeon · 16/04/2016 14:32

Just finished Riders and I loved it! Agree about the ending. I so badly wanted Tory to pick herself up, move on and also prove her horrible mother wrong.

My favourite character was billy right up until he gave Janey a second chance and also the Kenya trip. The scene in Kenya I really didn't enjoy and skimmed over. It also didn't ring true as at this point janey and billy had major trust issues would he really have watched her shag his best friend Hmm

I wanted to like Helen and willed for her to leave rupert. But by the end of the book she came over as a neurotic needy drip, I really disliked her.

The real star of the book for me was the horses and the show jumping world. I love horses so found that they were really well written.

Now on to rivals Smile

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BalloonSlayer · 16/04/2016 20:00

I have just finished Riders too and am rather shocked to realise that what I want to happen for Tory is more or less the same as her awful mother wants. Shock Divorce Jake and move on!

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JillyCooperBookClub · 18/04/2016 17:35
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lissa90 · 19/04/2016 17:55

I enjoyed Riders, however, I felt the character development and group dynamics were written far better in Jump! And having unwillingly succumbed to RCB's charms, its nice to see his appearance again. Counting the months down until the new novel is released :)

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mandycphoto · 24/07/2019 14:39

Oh god, I'm reading Riders for the 20th (ISH) time and have just delightedly gone through this thread!
Where did you all go?!

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