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breaking the can't cope/ tired/eat cycle help

232 replies

frustratedmom · 24/05/2009 13:09

I need ideas on where to start. Know you are a world of knowledge so please pass on the advice.

where to start
how to stick.

Anything.

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Niecie · 29/05/2009 01:35

Oh dear Moving, that isn't good is it?! Did it mention the good things about coffee - I only managed to read the doom and gloom but it was a long entry and it got a bit technical for me so I don't know.

I don't drink coffee as it makes me jittery and if I am tired, which of course is the time I am most likely to drink it, it gives me an upset stomach. So I avoid it. I don't drink a lot of tea either - 4 or 5 cups a week tops.

Sugar is my weakness. Maybe I should google that sometime and get scared - maybe in the morning.

Bad news about your DS being up - no chance of him going back to sleep at all?

VelvetCushions · 29/05/2009 09:22

I hope ds managed to get back to sleep Moving.
Don't be scared. I'm sure you'll benefit greatly from giving up caffeine and sorting out your diet etc. Start looking at vitamins and foods that will help improve your joints and any other issues you have. Be positive and move forward towards better health

I have to start the day off on a coffee but don't have to have it again.

Its silly isn't it? We know what we have to do, we know how much we'll benefit from doing it yet we find it so hard. A slim friend of mine just cannot understand my weight issues as she sees that I'm happy, organised, have a clean and tidy house, cook everyday and even bake my own bread and am health conscious and just can't get why I haven't lost weight. I can understand why she finds it hard to understand as unless you have a weight issue, you can't understand the psychological effects of food on some people.

Ok, another day. Lets go and win this battle

VelvetCushions · 29/05/2009 09:22

No snacks,
No sugar
No seconds
Sweat
Sleep
and 7 glasses of water

movingintothefuture · 29/05/2009 09:33

Yep did eventually get him back to sleep after some very tired mental gymnastics on my part. My pre-schooler now knows that sentances start with a capital letter, end in a full stop and only have a capital letter in the middle of the sentance if the word is a name. He also has read the first 4 pages of his new horrid henry early reader. Goodness knows what they are going to teach him when he gets to sleep, but its the only way i can get some sleep sometimes.

Honesty - have cracked open the coke but am limiting intake to 1 pint. The rest will be put in a suitable safe place until I need it. Tomorrow -when I have to be up at 6am to drive to the caravan on the south coast. Will be with out internet for week but it I find it easier to find the motivation to exercise when down there and no TV so less sleep procrastination available. Plus will spend most of day running boy about and doing museums (dinosaurs and terracotter army at dorchester on the list this time) so he is likely to sleep better and I find sea air tiring.

movingintothefuture · 29/05/2009 10:46

Opps Aim boot in this direction
Self control weak today

Niecie · 29/05/2009 11:18

Oh are you going to Weymouth, Moving? I like it a lot down there. And Dorchester too.

I was going to suggest you go to the new Wellworth's store in Dorcester, the one that was Woolies but got bought out by the manager and rebranded. I was also going to suggest that you get some Pic 'n' Mix whilst you were there but that isn't really in the spirit of this thread, is it?

Velvet - you are absolutely right it is silly not being able to do what we know is good for us.

Part of my problem is that in my head I am a 14/16 until I go and see myself in shop mirrors and realise it is much worse than that now. But I was still that size in my head even when I was a 10/12 (for a very short time mainly due to IBS) and a 12/14. I have a very mixed up body image obviously! I suppose that is a problem as I can't begin to imagine myself thin and I can't remember being thin because that wasn't how I thought of myself at the time.

Anyway,

No snacks,
No sugar,
No seconds
Sweat
and 7 glasses of water.

P.S. - now I have outed myself as a bigger size than a 16 (probably a big 18 or 20) you are all going to tell me that you are all size 10's who want to get back to being size 8's aren't you!? Please tell me you have more than a few pounds to lose. Or maybe if you do only have a few pounds to lose don't tell me and let me just pootle along in blissful ignorance!

VelvetCushions · 29/05/2009 11:26

I have 2 stones to lose. Could do with losing 3 to be properly slim but will be more than happy to get into the healthy bmi range rather than overweight.

Niecie · 29/05/2009 11:33

Thank you Velvet. I am reassured that I won't be deserted in a month because you have all hit your targets.

toomanystuffedbears · 29/05/2009 16:42

Velvetcushions-well said about it being hard. Changing an eating habit is very hard.

Movingintothefuture-I hope you have a good trip. Sounds like you will have plenty of distractions so time will fly by between meals. And the sea air (sigh) is so nice. We are going to the beach next month for 4 days. I am looking forward to it alot, too.

Niecie- ugg, IBS. I had that for a while (before I became a SAHM).

The low-down on me:
I was busting out of size 16 (US size) and that was the stretchy fabric pretty much to its full capacity . I would like to get to a 10 but in reality will probably settle for 12. Size 14 fit comfortably now.

Before I became pg (dd2 is now 14 mo) I set as my "top weight I will not let myself go over" at 165 lbs. After the birth, I settled at 170 and then started gaining more-started diet at 174.

I waited a year after the birth to do the diet program because I was just so tired, stress with the new baby...and two teens, and just to recover. I am down 15 and feel much better. 145 is my realistic goal. But if things are going well and I can get exercise in as a "normal" part of my day (instead of now -an anomaly) it might be possible to get to 135.

I am planning on being on nutrisystem for one year. I hope the reformation of my portion control will be complete in that amount of time (as well as my weight!). I will probably use the diet plan 4 months a year to maintain. That is my plan, anyway.

movingintothefuture · 29/05/2009 21:45

Its funny we all use different scales to measure ourselves by. Gave up on using stone when it got te point where ever time i had to stand on the scales. I use kilos now. It makes it feel better less scarey. I will confess I am not huge but I carry my wieght dangerously. People look at me and go "you're never 12 1/2 stone" Which i am but because I carry it internally and on butt and stomach and thighs people don't realise how much of a problem it is. In fact is it more dangerous as it means instead on sitting under the skin my fat is damaging my internal organs It is particularly hard as I was always one of those annoying stick thin people and then suddenly gained the wieght. So I am not used to seeing what other people see. I would like to shift 3 stone but would probably be advised to stick at 2 1/2.

Niecie: just staying in a carvan in the Poole area for a week. Hoping the sea air will kick my butt. Already have ds telling me off if I look at anything containing milk.

VelvetCushions · 29/05/2009 22:19

Well done to your ds for keeping you healthy.
Have a lovely holiday. Hope you wean yourself off the coke and get lots of sleep

Niecie · 30/05/2009 00:18

Moving - your DS sounds lovely.

Get him to memorise the 5 'S's' - you will never forget them and he can be your conscience and repeat them ad infinitum at all times of the day or night.

Have a fab holiday (I'm too late, aren't I - You've already gone to bed I bet).

Nearly finished my essay and then I can try and get some semblance of normality in my sleep too.

I also know what you mean about hiding the weight. People have often assumed I am a good stone less than I am - even the nurse when I had my wisdom teeth out in hospital. She wouldn't believe me when I told her my weight.

Sadly I have gone beyond hiding it now. I have always carried it on my bum and thighs but now it is everywhere although my fat stomach very muffiny and I am inclined to think my intermal organs aren't too badly affected due to the blubber hanging down rather than making it stick out. I am particularly fed up with my bat wings. Some fat people still have well toned, slender arms. I seem to have inherited my mother's bat wings (they are genetic - a doctor said so) and if I wave my arms in public, people standing too close risk getting a slap round the face with the flab.

God, too much info for a Friday evening.

As you can tell I'm a real goddess, me!

Niecie · 31/05/2009 12:02

Has everybody given up or are we all outside enjoying the sunshine and having a nice time?

Hope you are having a good weekend?

VelvetCushions · 31/05/2009 21:54

Have been a bit busy this weekend - and not very good have eaten toooooo much.
Monday is the start of a new week.

I'm going to be very, very, very strictly following the 5 S's till Friday. Will report back tomorrow.

VelvetCushions · 31/05/2009 21:55

No snacks,
No sugar,
No seconds
Sweat
and 7 glasses of water

toomanystuffedbears · 01/06/2009 01:47

Hi
Went off the program yesterday-and today. But tomorrow is 1 June-a brand new start.

We've spent the weekend cleaning out (most of) the garage. The minivan is now back in! It was out only 8 months. We had our basement finished starting last Oct so all the stuff in the basement came to the garage. It is a double and we filled it up.

We had a yard sale at the beginning of the month and then several runs to the dump since then. Still some to do, but we are on the downhill side for sure.

Regarding food: I want to get to a place where I prefer to eat vegetables to other (bad) choices. Will I ever be excited to eat vegetables -in any state of preparation?
That is what I want to try to train myself to do. Want the 'good-for-me' stuff.

My recent lapses have been due to my not eating a large salad at lunch for the last week or so. I do get tired of them, even though I mix them up (ingredients) quite a bit. The volume provides the satisfaction, I believe. I was substituting in cooked (hot) vegetables and felt satisfied at the time of the meal, but it didn't have the sustained appeasement of the appetite, iykwim.

Niecie- my arms flap a bit when I shake spices out into a dish. I need to concentrate on arm exercises, abs and back, and -well, who am I kidding?-I need everything .

Niecie · 01/06/2009 09:53

Hello!

Another week, another month even. I didn't have the best weekend either but I have finished my essay, don't have another one to do for a month and my time is my own, apart from all the other stuff I have to do!

toomany - Clearing out the garage sounds very energetic - we have to do ours soon as we have loads of crap interesting objects and office furniture in ours that needs sorting out before DH moves into his new office next month. We also have to clear out our study, which, if you were sitting where I am sitting this morning would be enough to make you weep - it is a pig sty, frankly.

I know what you mean about vegetables - I can't get excited about them either. They are a necessary evil imo although I love salad, sadly smothered in dressing though.

Fruit is another matter - I have lost the taste for it but if I regained it I would quite happily eat that instead of the bad stuff. Just have to retrain my palate! No problem.

Anyway, new week, nice weather, lots to do. This time next week I will be 2lbs lighter.

toomanystuffedbears · 01/06/2009 15:22

I am off for my walk. Going only 2 miles-hopefully dd2 will ride quietly. She was up last night midnight to 2:30am for teething pain. So I am right nutty to do this-

But it is June 1 and I am on a new page.

I'll write more when I get back.

ShannaraTiger · 01/06/2009 15:27

I started Slimming World Thursday night. Haven't done perfectly but I haven't had any sugar since Thursday evening. Friday was hell but realised I didn't fall asleep in the afternoon and am feeling loads better.

toomanystuffedbears · 01/06/2009 16:51

Hi Shannara Tiger-That is nice: to have some evidence, feed back, that doesn't take ages to manifest itself. Congratulations on starting, too. Just starting can be so hard.

Hi Niecie, Velvet Cushions
Did the walk. I walked a pretty good pace, 45 min with only two brief stops. There is a long hill-up on the first half, so the second half is easier .

Having done the exercise, I feel I'll be more motivated to maintain portion control today. When I feel hungry I will have first a glass of water, and then celery.

Among the things still in the garage is my dd1's teddy bear collection. She has over 100 bears that she has collected her whole life (she is 14). (Thus my nickname. )She wants to keep a few, but has agreed to dispense with the rest. We are going to try to find a place to donate them.

VelvetCushions · 01/06/2009 19:27

well done toomany. Garage clearout sounds very productive. And ell done to your dd. That must be a hard decision for her to make if she had been intentionally collecting them all. I'm sure there will be lots of grateful children when you donate them

Hi shannaratiger. Its amazing feeling the instant benefits of a healthy diet. When I start feeling better, I always wonder why the hell I don't do this all the time. I feel so silly I let myself get to that lethargic, fuggy stage.

Niecie that kind of positive thinking will work wonders. I want to do that too. 2lbs a week would be very good.

I can pretty much tick off all our 5 S's today [proud]
It feels like a great achievement. I've got to make sure I don't undo my hard work this evening.

I went into New Look today and they had a sale. I bought a couple of summery tops in a size 12. I'm actually a 14. I tried the tops on and they are a little bit tight (but lovely!) I'm sure I can get to look good in them in 3 weeks when I've lost 1/2 a stone.

No snacks, Tick
No sugar, tick
No seconds tick
Sweat small tick - went walking
and 7 glasses of water tick

toomanystuffedbears · 01/06/2009 23:21

Three cheers for Velvet Cushions!

It took 3 stalks of celery to get me through the 4 o'clock bewitching hour. I made a pizza bread with lots of yummy pepperoni and cheese for dear teenagers. I was tempted to eat the end piece, but took the celery instead.

The teens don't have weight issues, thankfully. Dh does though .

I don't make the pizza bread very often. Even so, I should try a healthy version with chicken and broccoli and maybe a little cheddar.

Niecie · 02/06/2009 12:30

Well done ladies. I think we might be getting into the swing of things.

I thought I had a really good day yesterday - really busy, not time for snacking.

So I made the cardinal error of getting on the scales this morning, just to have a little look. Up 2lb FGS.[hm]

I know, it is my own fault. Only check once a week, not daily but even so, a little bit of encouragement wouldn't have gone amiss would it? Was that too much to ask?

To remind myself and stop me falling off the wagon

No snacks
No sugar
No seconds
Sweat
7 glasses of water.

Just been to sports day with DS2. They don't do a parents' race as such, they just finish off the day with a jog round the field 4 times. No jogging for DS2 and me, more brisk walking - I discovered my sandals are falling apart so didn't want them to disintegrate (sounds like a lame excuse but true) and DS was tired and emotional as the result of a great deal of confusion in the bean bag race and being robbed of 3rd place in the egg and spoon by a cheat! Disgraceful

Oh the joys of infant school sports days. I am considering teaching as a career change but these events serve to remind me that I am not cut out for infants and probably not for Juniors either!

I'm off to surf the net for a lovely new pair of sandles.
Anyway, I have

toomanystuffedbears · 02/06/2009 13:26

Oh, poor you re: the scales Niecie.

I have been stuck on this plateau for a month and have lost a total of 2 pounds in a whole month. And I am paying in the neighborhood of $300 for this program! Perhaps seeing this written down will be the boot I need, indeed!

But, I'll take the two pound loss-some weeks it was only 2 tenths of a pound loss: still better than a gain.

Your gain may be due to alot of different things as your body adjusts to the changes you are making. I wouldn't assume it is fat gain...it could be water. Do you watch your salt intake?

Don't despair. Put it out of your mind and carry on.

Today's 4 o'clock rescue will be zucchini. Raw or maybe even sauted lightly. I am looking for joy in a zucchini.

I feel reduced already.

Niecie · 02/06/2009 16:03

You are right, toomany, it probably is salt and water retention that cause the gain. I know that in my head but I still feel demoralised by it. Silly really.

Hopefully my weight will go down with the temperatures tomorrow! For some reason I have puffy ankles which is ususual for me.

I admire your attempts to get excited about Zuccini. I have just been out listening to Yr 5 children read at school and I need cake!!! I have had grapes instead were kind of nice as it is hot today and they are quite refreshing but I still miss cake!

I need to retrain my palatte - it just takes such a long time though.

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