breaking the can't cope/ tired/eat cycle help

[frustratedmom]

I need ideas on where to start. Know you are a world of knowledge so please pass on the advice.

where to start
how to stick.

Anything.

Hello - how are you all?

I have had a bad day. I suppose I did a fair bit of walking but the eating has been bad. I started off so well too with breakfast at a decent time and a proper lunch.

Unfortuntely I am knackered this afternoon and have resorted to chocolate. Arghhhh!

I shall have to redeem myself this evening and be very very good.

I did well yesterday too.

at your day, Niecie. My day diet wise is a write-off as for sorting out the cause of the emotions behind the bad habits Meeting with school fantastic, other bits worrying about was an admin screw up, plus fairly good night sleep. Am going to focus on causes of bad eating and hope will power appears Going to be good an soak some soap mix for planned healthy lunch and as no chocolate in house now (it was a well meant present) It is looking good for tomorrow. Going to tackle GP over DS sleeping tomo so hopefully more progress.

Just remember "Rome wasn't built in a day" it is going to take a while before we stop having slip up bad days. Take it in hand the reduction in bad days are progress and moved forward with determination.

I'm right behind you...
just had birthday cake.
Dd1 is 15 yrs today.

Must walk tomorrow. Maybe I'll move some furniture around too.

I have not thought of an incentive-reward yet. Maybe a DVD set of something.

I hope your schedule will lighten up for you Oneforward20back. Being so busy can be good in some ways, but then (for me, anyway) the fatigue just cries for calories to keep going.

I am trying to spend less time at the computer-and am also trying to make myself believe that I will use that time for exercising-or at least cleaning-or crawling around the floor with the baby.

Not a bad day for me yesterday either and didn't have rubbish either.
I had a bowl of crunchy nut cornflakes after dinner though which I wish I hadn't.

I think I had about 1600 calories. It was a bit more than I wanted but I was invited out to lunch to a Thai restaurant and couldn't really not eat!

Happy birthday to your dd, Toomany. You're allowed cake as its a special day
I know what you mean about limiting your time on the computer. I am doing the same as I find I spend too much time on the pc when I should be doing other things.
I've been meaning to ask you where about in th US you are?

I am going to have to be extra good today. I've had porridge for breakfast. I've got a couple of viewers for the house this evening so need to do some frantic cleaning.

Melatonin
A responable request
Request put into pead
Sleeeeeep!

Yep- toomany calories are too much and too scared to even attempt to plug into counter. Am working on the URGENT to do list. Hoping if I can shift some of that life will chill but successful school meeting yesterday about ds combined with dr appt today has removed a huge weight of worry and stress. So

Niecie -duvet diet arrived today thanks for recommendation.

Good night's sleep and good day diet wise but could have done with a little more exercise. Amazing the effect of a good night sleep.

How is everyone else doing?

Hi

Hope everybody is fighting fit.

I am doing OK but not great. Done a fair bit of walking recently but could do more.

It has been a busy week. Saw the OT about DS1 this week and, as usual, it brings it home that he has to keep moving and that we should be doing it with him! I am trying to arrange swimming lessons for him, one to one as I am convinced he will drown unless he has somebody with him all the time - his coordination and I can't see him getting it together with his arms and legs to swim. Perhaps it will lead to us doing more as a family although I must admit to loathing swimming

oneforward - sounds like you had a good day on Wednesday. Hope the melatonin does the job.

With you on the swimming -not favourite. Ds booked in for 1 week crash course this summer so i feel confident enough to go near him in the water (I have a water phobia) but it will count towards your exercise and really help ds is it swimming or swiimng costume you loath?

Just remember every babystep in the right direction is progress forward and if it takes time to implement a change it is more likely to stick about.

LOL - both! Neither is very nice and also swimming pools are nasty, germ-ridden, cold, slippery places. And they smell!!

But I suppose he ought to learn to swim and DS2 as well. .

Last time I had a swimming costume was for my honeymoon nearly 16yrs ago. I bought it new for the honeymoon and never wore it (although in my defence we were in the Dordogne and there was no sea there). I probably still have it but since it is about 4 dress sizes too small I doubt it would be very flattering!

Hi-
weighed in-no change ...thought I'd get that out of the way right off. Actually, I may have gained 1.5 and than lost it again .

Velvetcushions-I live in Virginia about 50 miles south of Washington DC in Fredericksburg.

I love swimming. I was pretty good in high school-a little swim team in the winter time. But with dd2, I probably won't get much chance. We belong to a small outdoor swimming club; dd1 is on the swim team. I really don't like the indoor pools-the chlorine (or whatever chemical mix they use) irritates me.

I know I don't look that great in a bathing suit-but I like swimming so much I get past the embarrassment some how. When I go, I am in the water-I rarely sun bathe. I never wear a bikini, though (wouldn't even if I had the body for it). I have one of the fabulous Lands End one piece suits that is made of fairly thick fabric and is lined very well.

Good luck with your children, and for yourself, too. My ds was terrified to get his face in the water and took him ages to get over it. It does take alot of patience. I am "conditioning" dd2 in the bathtub with "floating on her back" and "blowing bubbles". I know that may sound obsessive, but I believe it will help her when she is finally in the pool.

I've not been doing too well lately and am feeling a bit fed up of it all.
I think I may start taking some multi-vits as I'm getting a bit fed up of feeling tired and run down.

Are we all running out of steam here?

I know I am and I have hardly achieved anything at all!

What can we do to give ourselves a kick up the bum? Do we need to be stricter with ourselves or what we post?

How do I get motivated!? You would think looking in the mirror would be enough!

Velvet - Sorry to hear you don't feel great. Maybe a tonic will help you. Is there something specific wrong or just general yuckiness?

I am having my coil removed on Friday and I am hoping that it might be the answer to all my troubles. I have put on so much weight since I had it put in, 5.5yrs ago. I don't know though - maybe I am just kidding myself. I shall be mightily disappointed if things don't change when it is taken out. In a lot of ways it has been great but I can't help thinking, after what I have read on here and elsewhere, that it might have side effects.

Velvet - don't blame you for the multivitamins. Are you feeling any better?

This thread does seem to be struggling and as you suggested, Niecie, maybe a sign of flagging enthusiam and motivation. But i am going to raise the question of general life. How it is treating people good, bad or ugly? I have noticed a definet link between that and how I am feeling on the food and motivation side.

We could do a daily/couple day/weekly more detailed posting. I don't know how people are going about the diet tracking (i avoided it as I thought it would steal any motivation that was lurking in the corners)

I am still feeling positive. Although the scales aren't seeing an improvement yet my attitude is changing. And I am actually finding some very small progress here and there
Example of my fairy steps forward:

1. down to about 1 lt coke /day and working on it.
2. Getting a reasonable amount of sleep and quality is starting to improve
3. Cut out all dairy (except chocolate ) and joints feel better

4.Cut down on portions and stop eating when full

1. Reduced snacks and trying to be healthy when must
2. Cut done on seconds - getting better at none
3. Trying to avoid the 10pm picking (trying )
4. Gained the motivation to want to do more exercise
5. Rediscovered the ability to function

but still as mad as a hatter from lack of sleep. - it'll take a while

As for the scales well I am now 5kg heavier then when i was last brave enough to stand on them. But I know i can't make steps on actual weight until the other bits are resolved.

Niecie -i'm still waiting for the weight loss from coming off depo - i guess it takes a while for the hormones to settle down again

ANy ideas anyone (i seem to be writing a noval?!?) am welcome to all suggestions about how to inject some more enuthiasm into this. ...periodically losing will to live and progress is actually painfully

oneforward, you sound sound like you are doing really well and that you are staying focused.

I guess my problem is that I forget about it from one hour to the next. If I am not out clothes shopping (which doesn't happen very often), or looking in the mirror, or on here I forget what I am supposed to be doing. This is why I haven't ever bothered with WW or SW or any of the others - I simply would forget about the programme from one week to the next, realise on meeting night that I wouldn't have lost anything and simply not go, wasting my subscriptions money in the process. I need to stay focussed and can't seem to find the motivation for that!

What has got to happen!!?? Do I need a health scare and a doctor to frighten the life out of me to lose weight because I am beginning to wonder.

Why can't I be bothered?

Actually, don't answer that, it is probably a symptom of too much sugar and not enough sleep and being over weight.

I think looking at the health aspects is definetly what helped get my mind in order. Mind you I am currently sitting here and eating a packet of chocolate biscuits for breakfast I just have to look at the bits i have made progress on

Look at the not enough sleep bit - it has really helped me I now just eat the biscuits and not the proper breakfast and biscuits. I am working on it. Last night was a bad nights sleep (lost a few hours on here) and know today is going to be bad on eating. Keep it simple make goal this week to drink more water
Make goal next week to take a 10min brisk walk everyday
Make goal week after to take a 15min brisk walk everyday.

It will take longer bit little tiny steps helps make the change easier and helps to make it more lasting.

You're right, I know you are right. Everything you say is very sensible and I KNOW what I should do.

But take today - it is now 12 pm and I haven't done anything useful except go to the post office, put on a couple of loads of washing and have breakfast (late). I have wasted the morning.

If I listed all the stuff I have to do I would have the longest post in history. That is part of the problem though, as you say, its all a bit (understatement of the year) overwhelming and I need to take baby steps.

Right, get off your fat arse you silly woman and go and tidy your desk. An hour. Do an hour and stop procrastinating.

Oh sorry - that was to myself in case you were wondering

Eat like a sumo wrestler, look like a sumo wrestler.

Sometimes "sound bites" like that help me.

Had 6 chocolate chip cookies in a mini binge yesterday as I declared I would go off my program for my little vacation Mon-Thur. Went to the grocery and felt sick from the cookies. So no, I'll not go off the program-but I'll do it on "my own".

I am barely maintaining. But I've lost 19 pounds(!) I remind myself and I do feel much better, less pain, better sleep.

It is really an outlook on life sort of thing for me= I have to make a fundamental change in how I view food. I have to get motivated and excited about fueling my body with the right stuff.

"Chocolate chip cookies are poison" (zombie emotikon)...

Let's not give up!

I've given myself a couple of slaps and am ready to get on with it.

I agree that we need to do more detailed posts specific to diet and exercise.

How about we post everything we eat on here? Hopefully it will motivate us into eating less and healthier. It would make us look really bad if we were posting '10 choc biccies, 3 bars of choc' etc and make us realise how unhealthy we are.

I want to be 2 stone slimmer and I'm not going to waste any more of my life being this heavy and looking crap (in my opinion)

So today was a good day and I ate

yoghurt
granola bar
skinny cappuccino

tomato soup
berry smoothie

apple
oatbiscuit

chicken and noodle salad

not brave enough to post what eaten today. You might have enough boots to throw at me for all the rubish I have eaten. You would be horrified

i did the brave thing and went through my wardrobe yesterday. Threw out everything i am not likely to wear again or is getting so old it is falling apart. Put all of stuff in box with a date on it. If it isn't out of that box in a year the whole lot goes [worried]

30ish small chocolate coated biscuits (breakfast), 1 ham sandwich, packet of crisps, 4 chocolate bars, 2 hard boiled eggs and a prawn mayo sandwich. Plus best part of 2lts coke.

3 more chocolate bars and another 1lt of coke

... i think we can conclude its a Bad day

oneforward, sorry you had a bad day but I do admire the fact you wrote it all down, I can't even begin to remember what I ate yesterday but it did include such pearls as half a bag of Cadbury's Shots (and I don't think they come in small bags) and cake.

Velvet - congratulations on your good day. If you can make it rub off on me I would be very grateful.

I was reading my Marisa Peer book last night - You can be Thin. It is a bit like the Paul McKenna book as it has a hypnotherapy disk and it is about mental attitude rather than calorie counting. I was spurred on by the Paul McKenna thread that has been around. I didn't like his voice on his CD at all but the idea is a good one.

Anyway, I have had this Marisa Peer book for ages and not got passed page 60 but I read some more last night and there were some gems of advice in it. -

Toomanybears - sounds bites are the way to go according to my book - fool your brain into believing you will be thin and eat healthily and hey presto, you will be (after some time of course.

So, I have another 's' for you all - shedding.

We are shedding weight, not losing it. In almost every other context 'losing' something is seen as a negative thing so she says it makes sense to say you are shedding weight so your mind is not subconsciously thinking that losing weight is a bad thing and sabotaging your efforts..

Not sure it is that easy but I am willing to give it a go.

Anyway, I can't promise a perfect day of quality eating (stayed up too late reading diet books ) but I have filled my 1.5l water bottle and I will try to get through it as well as other drinks. That has to be a start.

I like your soundbites Toomany

Niecie give yourself a couple of snaps and tell yourself to stop dithering and its time to get on with the 'shedding' and making the most of your life. That seems to have worked for me

Today, I had

yoghurt
granola bar
cappuccino

crayfish wrap from M&S healthy eating range
berry smoothie

4 ryvitas with some cheese

very small portion of rice, spinach and potato curry and a bit of chicken

small bowl of crunchy nut cornflakes

Hello ladies, hope you don't mind me butting in. I'm definitely stuck in this cycle, attacking sugar laden stuff at every turn just to keep going through the day, otherwise I find I'm nodding off or loosing my temper. DS3 (1.2) has slept through for the first time the past few nights so I'm hoping as I catch up with my sleep deficit I'll have more energy, if the insomnia doesn't kick in.

Ideally I'd like to loose about 4-5 stone to get into the healthy weight for my height. I used to walk for 2hrs a day, but since moving out to the country I find walking a problem as no pavements and several little dcs (6.4, 4.9, 2x2.6 and 1.2) are just not a safe combination and I just can't find energy to exercise.

I'm mostly veggie (occasional fish/prawns), healthier if I avoid dairy, but I love my dairy, know the should and shouldn't eats but just finding it hard to put into practise. I just don't seem to have enough hours to slave away chopping salad esp when the dcs won't eat it. I've set up a veg/fruit delivery in a bid to get me to eat more, but totally uninspired and most of my diet/recipe books are packed ready for moving.

Should I be detoxing/juicing/restricting/calorie counting...? I just want something easy to follow that I can stick to and that the family can join in with. And I'd like to get back into control of my eating, instead of just getting ridiculous cravings for sugar and devouring things without even thinking or tasting them.

Welcome Niche - your some fresh blood, hope you have some emthusiasm and some big boots

We are trying a simple idea called the S diet.
The 1st S is that it is simple the 2nd is special days (days when cheating is allowed!)

Other then that we have
No snacks
No seconds
No sugar
More Sleep
Sweat
Seven glasses of water.

That's the basics, easy and simple. Sweat could be cleaning vigerously or simply going for a walk

DidEinsteinsMum have this much trouble formly know as oneforward...

Has had a ...? day
2 1/2lt coke
1bacon sandwich
1 child's portion of chips
2 pieces of carrot cake
One pizza

But one major meltdown and for a change it was mine rather then ds'
Emotionally fragile especially with interview tomo so hopefully will survive the late night snacking though pizza isnt sitting so good ... its dairy that'll be the intollerance then

Good luck with interview tomorrow btw.

Welcome niche. We're going to try to write down everything we eat in a hope it'll help us to see where we're going wrong and force us to eat healthier by not wanting to list crap food here.