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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

ALIZONNE THERAPY?

999 replies

oinker · 04/11/2008 18:27

Just seen this advertised in National Press.

Has anyone ever tried it?

Is it pricey?

More to the point, Does it really work?

I'm intrigued..... I had never heard of this programme before...

OP posts:
megemmal · 23/04/2012 13:49

Hi Malik21, I think it's gonna be hard for us until we get a few days in and get to grips with the new regime/foods shakes etc. I'm sure there will be a fair few that I find disgusting too. BUT we know this works! Way I am looking at it is .....after many failed attempts to stick to a plan over the last 2 years to loose a couple of stone...ive ended up with mixed messages regarding what to eat..WW v SW, Dukan Diet etc. I see this as an opportunity to re-educate myself (I kno its over - strict to start with) But there is no room for error you can eat certain things and can't eat others! My appointment is this Fri.... I'm excited but nervous. Im really really gonna miss my cuppa.... don't think I can handle it without milk!!! So I guess Water is gonna be my new best friend. I've tried to clear out my cupboards to make room for some new stuff and am looking forward to starting now.....just think in as little as 12 weeks I could be 3 stone lighter....amazing!

DaisyLondon · 23/04/2012 22:11

Hi Malik21, glad you've been able to get started with the sachets and all the very best with the programme. You will require a lot of discipline if you want to stay on track with this, so plan ahead, schedule your eating times and chart out a menu in advance to keep you going.

I am sure missing the one packet is not going to have an effect on the bigger picture but please don't make a habit of it as yiou need to maintain a certain number of calories to keep your metabolism going in order to burn fat. So eat use up all your 5 sachets, use your 1 tbsp of olive oil and your 200gms of limited veg.

Re sachets, you will have to train your mind to accept that these won't taste like real food. Just find some you can tolerate and then modify them as you go along. I am writing my daily menu on the Alizonne patients forum, so ask your clinic for a password and join in there. You will find a lot of useful tips and also support as others are going through the same as you are. Think of the sachets as meds that will make you thin and you need to take 5 in order for the meds to work their magic!! Try different flavours of the cold drinks, the tropical and exotic are quite popular. I like the orange and pineapple one as well. I mix it up with half the water and then add sparkling water to make it fizzy. For the vanilla sachet, try adding 1 spoon of coffee and heating it a little bit in the micro and then drinking it as a vanilla latte.

I hope you find something you like. At my 2nd WI (2 weeks), I lost another 2kgs taking my weight loss to 5.6 kgs / 12lbs.

Hope that motivates you! Good luck and remember, in order to succeed, you must persevere. Now is not the time to test yourself, ask your brother to go eat his burger in a different room or perhaps you can leave the room if he's eating things that you find tempting.

Take care and look forward to your updates xx

malik21 · 24/04/2012 01:32

hey worrals, megemmal and daisy london. Thank u soooooooooo much 4 ur support. I really appretiate it! Honestly! yesterday i was going 2 giving up bcuz i felt like i couldnt eat any of the food. I had 2nd thorts and my family members wre like y r u forceing urself 2 eat n drink food thats makin u feel sik! which is understandable! but i havent told any1 how much its costin me as i no my family would just go mad at me! I KEPT THINKIN 2 MYSELF ITS NOT GONA WORK!!
But then i thort 2 myself well there NOT the 1s that look in the mirror everyday n think how did i get here? how did i let myself get so big? and y am i not takin care of my body? y am i not happy about my w8? n its bcuz 4 the last few years iv let myself go and i wanted 2 b able 2 b happy with my weight and feel good about my body!

I kinda feel like on my 1st day (yesterday) i wasnt getting any support. I had family members saying y r u going extreme and doing this crazy diet. if u dont like the food just eat healthy food like fish n chiken etc.. but i said well iv tried all of that, iv bin on a healthy diet wre iv eaten grilled fish n veg n salad and i didnt last longa then 3 days. And talking about extreme!?!? i dont c this diet as extreme! YES! its strict but id rather do this ANYDAY then go under the knife and put myself at risk by having a gastric band wre im constantly throwing up after feeling full!

Well i had a scary 1st day anyway, all the food i was tasting was all off putting. I nearly threw up after tasting the the orange and grapefruit drink. I h8d it n im hopeing i can change these 4rm the swap box!
I did initially want 2 go for the orange and pineapple as every1 was talking bwt it being the best flavour in the drinks, however they wre out of stok and instead went 4 the grapefruit! NEVER AGAIN!!! LOL

2day has been ALOT better! I had the vanilla sachet (the best so far) the mushroom soup and added 1 chopped mushroom, spring onion tops and seasoning (not bad at all) the sheeps cheese (which im loving atm) I added garlic powder, pepper, salt, lemon juice, chilli flakes, dried parseley, paprika and chopped half a green pepper and cooked it with the cheese on top of it with a nice salad and i really enjoyed it! and a hot choc, then grillled aubergine and fine herbs omlette which was ok.. So generally 2day was ALOT better! The only think is im having 2 go 4 a wee like ALL the time and i dont no if its normal but iv got loose stools.

megemmal- im looking 4ward 2 hearing 4rm ur progress and thanks 4 all the support. Yes no milk allowed which im missing 2 as i love milk and tru 12 weeks and 3 stone lighter.. sounds amaizing! btw have u got 3st 2 loose bcuz if u have i also have 3 st 2 loose in 12 weeks :D

DaisyLondon- Im so proud of u 2 weeks into the therapy and uv shed 12lbs that is truely amaizing and yes it has tempted me 2 keep going! i no i can do this, i have 2 do this! i dont wana live the rest of my young life meserable and body consious! u r keeping me motivated, i think i just need 2 get over the first week and get used 2 the routine! i will try the coffee with the vanilla sachet and 4rm 2morow i will try and organise myself as much as i can!
I still have not got my alizone pasword so i will ask for that! and i will start lookin at all the food as medication! slimming medication! lol
keep going ur doing fantastic! and i will keep u upd8d

sorry abouth the long essay lol! and thanx guys 4 ur support
xxx

DaisyLondon · 24/04/2012 23:30

Hey malik21 - how was day 3? Hope all is going well x

malik21 · 25/04/2012 06:20

hey daisylondon- day 3 has was surprisingly good! 2day i tried the pizza and i actually found it tasty. I really enjoy the sheep cheese i think its delicious! Iv got a few favourites already, mainly 4rm the samples i was given b4 starting the diet. I havent had any major headaches, except 4 a minor 1 @ day1 b4 i was going 2 sleep. I also tried the capuccino which was also nice but i made it thik and drank it cold. The only syptoms iv been having it sometimes im feel really light headed and a bit dizzy but this dosent happen much and its not really affecting me 2 b honest and i have dhiarhea. NOT feeling hungry just slightly pekish sometimes but bcuz im eat frequently i just look 4ward 2 my meals now..

I went out with all my friends 2day and we all went nandos.. i havent told any of my m8s im on the diet and i was so proud of myslef that i didnt eat anything 4rm there! I went 2 the toilet in nandos and was so tempted but after looking at my self in the mirror i told myself i cant cheat! im paying so much money! i want good results! surprisingly wen every1 was stuffing themeselves with the gawjus smelling chiken and peri peri chips LOL i was like tellin all my m8s .. NO iv already eaten! LOL! I didnt want 2 get the salad bcuz i new if i did all my m8s wud b like .. R U ON A DIET! n i just cant b botherd wid all the questions!

I wasnt hungry ANYWAY! so that was fantastic! so i didnt have 2 think twice about wether i wanted 2 try some or not! i was slightly tempted 2 have a glass of coke! as i LOVE coke! even tho ino its no gud 4 me!

how r u getting on? r u finding the programme easier now? and how did u find the food that u bought this week? like the salmon blinis.
Also what r the pancakes like? bcuz im thinking of geting a box nxt week?

ILL keep u updated

xxx

Tonisue · 25/04/2012 13:36

Have just heard about this diet and wondered if any of you know if it works for older women - I am 57 just hitting menopause (I know late starter) and weight is piling on - I need to lose 2 stone to be comfortable again.

Also I will be going to live overseas in a few months so any advice on how easy it is to keep it off afterwards?

sky28 · 25/04/2012 17:49

hi everyone,

I too am starting this diet in the London clinic. I have my bloods and consultation on the 14th may and then go in on the 16th may for the food. I am really nervous actually as have been on so many diets that work and then dont work when i lose patience or get bored. I also feel that the next two weeks I am sort of in limbo. Not sure whether to eat all the foods I want because then i can't or go on a healthy eating/slimming world type diet to help ease myself into it. Any suggestions? AM so impatient and just want to get on with it but that was the first available appointment so will have to wait it out lol.

xx

malik21 · 25/04/2012 18:57

hey sky28
I had the exact same problem as u. had 2 wait a while before i could start like nearly a month! Then wen it came up to my consultation i was so excited and really nervous! the 2 weeks b4 my consultation i felt the same as ur feeling, was confused bout wot 2 eat as i new i was going 2 have 2 stay on a strict diet... I watched wot i ate which i think is a good idea, ur getting urself prepared 4 wen u start alizonne. I ended up loosing half a stone just by watching wot i was eating and also bcuz i was so nervous i had a slight loss of appetite.

I would suggest u just eat healthy, I dont mean being really strict on urself, but if u do pile any weight on within those 2 weeks cuming up 2 ur consultation ( if ur stuffing ur face wid wrong foods) u will end up being on the diet longa then u thought in order 2 loose those few lbs that u may have gained and it all adds up bcuz the longa ur n the diet the more money its gna cost u! How much w8 have u got 2 loose? i have 3 stone 2 loose. And i started the diet 3 days ago. First day wad hard and found the taste of the food horrible! but now on im actually likeing the food and i look 4ward 2 my meals...

Dont be nervous, i was also a nervous wreck, but just remember its all medically supervised and ppl on here r also getting great results which is keeping me motivated. The doctor will tell u on ur consultation ur weight goal and how long it will take u 2 loose the weight.

Tonisue- I no someone at the clinic hu is in thre mid 50's and she has managed 2 loose 5stone in 6 months. I dont think the age is the issue, as thre are a few other ppl hu have started the diet late, however wen u go 4 ur consultation u will have bloods taken and the doc will tell u wether u r fit enough 2 go ahead with the diet or not so it would e a good idea 2 book ur self a consultation. 2 stone it not alot 2 loose so you should be ok..

Anyways guys , keep me updated

xxx

sky28 · 25/04/2012 19:37

Hi Malik21,

thank you so much for replying - I am such a nervous wreck it is ridiculous! I ended up calling the clinic today to ask to put on the cancellation list so that I could possible be seen sooner!
I have 5 stone to lose which I know is a huge amount but after having 3 kids in as many years it has just piled on. I managed to lose it all a couple of years ago on the HCG diet but as soon as i started eating normally it all came back on - am really and truly hoping that once it is off, it stays off!
AM going to do as you suggested and eat healthily these next two weeks so I can try and lose a little before I start. When you went for your bloods and consultation did they give you the foods then to start the next day or did you have to come back?

THanks once again for replying - really appreciate it and look forward to watching the pounds melt off!!

xx

mrspannie · 25/04/2012 22:04

Hey everyone, I've just finished my fifth week on the diet and have now lost 8.8 kgs. Really pleased with the results so far and have to say that it's been relatively easy. I really haven't been hungry since the first few days. The weight loss is starting to show now and my clothes are looser - but doubt that someone who doesn't know I'm dieting would notice any weight loss yet. That's yet to come. Good luck girls. Onwards and downwards.

malik21 · 26/04/2012 02:35

hey sky28- Daisylondon also has 5 stone 2 loose (i think) she has been on the diet 2 weeks and lost 12lbs already. I did not receive my food straight away i had 2 w8 like another 3 4 days until i could start the diet as i had my bloods on a friday and the clinic didnt take out any tests during the weekend. Most ppl start the diet str8 away after having thre bloods which takes 48 hours 2 receive results. YES i think thats a good idea 2 start now and u will feel very motivated wen u start!

mrs pannie- WOW! ur doing reallywell so happy 4 u thats nearly 20lbs! keep up the good work and i hope u reach ur target w8 on time!

Im feeling slightly gutted at the moment, Iv been drinkin the water with flavoured sweetners in it instead of the sugar water that the doc said was forbidden as i thought the water with the sweetners in it would be ok as it says in instruction book that u r allowed sweetners. I dont like the taste of plain water and i contacted the clinic via email 2 days ago about it and they got bak 2 me 2day saying i cant have flavoured water at all. So i weighed myself bcuz i got concious, as this is my 4th day and i still weight the same! Im really upset, Im guessing its probly bcuz i drank the water that i have had no loss or just that the diet is not working 4 me... am i bieng 2 quik 2 judge? as it is only my 4th day? Im really unpatient, if i dont c results n the scale i give up, really upset now! and now bcuz iv been put off i havent had any water 2day as i h8 n taste of it and im scerd things r starting 2 go downhill 4 me.

Im dreading my weigh in will show i weigh the same or i have only lost 2 3 pounds bcuz most ppl n hre r loosing at least 7lbs just in thre 1st week! im following everything iv bin told! weighing my 200gr veg allowance, stikin 2 oil allowance, 5 sachets a day. I AM however using alot of seasoning bcuz i feel as tho this is the only way i can eat the food but all seasoning is in powder form i.e- garlic n ginger powder any tips? i think if i feel good in nxt day r so i will hit the gym

sunnymoon · 26/04/2012 20:27

Hi, can someone please advise what the cost is and if there is a clinic in Glasgow.
I am within my BMI, just. However have alot of baby belly weight, I have had 3 children, 2 by c-section and nothing I have tried, including diet and exercise has worked, Anyone in a similar situation that can advise, I would be grateful for any info thanks x

megemmal · 26/04/2012 20:47

Hey Everybody ......well the day is almost dawning!!!!! Yep I go for my consultation tomorrow having waited 3 weeks for my appointment. In those three weeks I have tried to adopt a healthy eating plan increasing salad and water consumption and .......have lost 5lb.....then my period decided to come this morning.....charming! Phoned the clinic and they said it shouldn't affect my bloods so I am all set to go 10.30 appointment tomorrow am...and all well and good I will go for my first treament, get all the foods etc on Monday and start the Alizonne programme next Tuesday 1st May. I am really excited. I HAVE 3 STONE TO LOOSE ( 2 AND A HALF WOULD BE OKAY) Will wait to see what they advise me.

Sunnymoon ...welcome. I too have 3 children twins then another 15 months later both deliveries were c- section. I did lose most of the baby weight but bad habits over the past two years have piled 3 stone on and despite repeated attempts at WW and SW it doesnt seem to shift and stay off! I hit 40 in January and am using my savings/birthday money to give this a go. I am currently a size 14 (tight) and have a wardrobe full of size 10s! I go on holiday 13 weeks time and want to shift the weight so am focused and intend to stick to this diet 100% so will keep u posted. Dunno if there is a clinic in Glasgow I am in Wales and my nearest clinic is Wilmslow 40 minutes away.....but I'm going for it

Wish me luck!!!!

sunnymoon · 26/04/2012 21:21

Good Luck.... I look forward to hearing how you get on..

malik21 · 27/04/2012 03:51

hey sunnymoon the cost is expensive... ur looking at a grand a month:
ur 1st week cost r £560 which all includes:

doctor consultation: £85
bloods: £95
starter pack: £72
supplement: £80
food box: £18 each x 5 = £90 + an additional box @ £18 (just incase, n 1st week) which = £108
combined treatments= £120

then after that you have to pay the below figures weekly to stay n the diet:
combined weekly treatment= £120
Alizonne nutrition (food) = £90
total= £210 a week

:) just tellin u the facts... Iv just started recently and Im on day 4 and do not feel hungry at all! depending on how much w8 u have 2 loose and how fast ur body can loose the weight, will decide how much u pay. How much r u looking on loosing? Average weight loss is a stone a month..

Hey megemmal- c... told u! I did the same as u, had time on my hands coming up 2 my consultation so i decided 2 stik 2 a healthy diet whilst w8n 4 my AZ appointment! thats 5lbs gne! well done! another 2 and thats half a stone! so mayb u cud stik 2 it and loose another 2lbs whilst w8n 2 start the diet nxt week! I am also a tight size 14 and have 3 st 2 loose.. I suggest u tell the doc u wana loose 3 stone, and c wot he/she says 4rm there, they will tell u wether u can acheive that weight according 2 ur height! and after ur medgem u will find out how long it will take u 2 loose the w8 so hopefully u wud have shed the 3 st by the time u go on holiday and then complete the phaseing off when u cum bak

a few suggestions tho: wen u go on holiday (i no its a long time away yet) but try not 2 go off track and just remember how much it cost 4 u 2 loose the w8 and all the effort u put into it. Wen ur on hols u will probly b able 2 eat normal food like fish , meat n eggs. So try 2 stik 2 it, the doc 2 me if u mess up ur diet (even whilst phaseing off) u will end up pileing the weight back on very quikly!

So gud luk 4 2mrw hope everything goes well! keep me updated xx

megemmal · 27/04/2012 13:59

Hi everybody.. just got back from the consultation and the doc was fab.... so here are the facts
I have a low metabolic rate 1320 ( not surprised really...years of yo-yo dieting) Weighed in at 76 kilos thats 11stone 13 with my jeans and jumper (and its my time of the month so thats great) Need to lose 20kg which will take me to 56k or 8stone 12 ish. so 3 stone. Now the interesting bit. Doc reckons it will take between 12-16 weeks to reach that (cos of my low metabolic rate). As it stands I will go back for all my stuff on Monday and start the programme next Tuesday 1st May. I will have 12 weeks til my holiday.
Doc also said that it shld take me 8-10 weeks to reach 70% weight loss and phase 2. which means i could eat out in the evenings on holiday yay!Fish or chicken with salad or veggies.

The girls at the clinic were fab really helpful. I have the folder a shaker and some omlette samples to try over the weekend. They also went over the food lists and discussed fav foods etc with me.

I am only having one of the treatments on monday ( as I wont be in ketosis...won't have started the diet?!!) I then need to buy enuf sachets for 11 days as i cant get an app til week friday. So my first weigh in will be 10 days into the programme. ( I have also booked all of my app up to 12 weeks in advance to ensure regular days)

I have a sweet tooth so intend to go for the dessert type sachets/fruits of the forest yoghurts for the 2 snacks,in the daytime, porridge? for breccie, sheeps cheese (cos I love feta on mushrooms) and i cld do with advice on the pizza base, omlettes,potato cake thingy for my other options ( for some variety cos i don't want to eat the same thing every day!) any advice here appreciated!!!!

Malik Hows it going day 4?

malik21 · 28/04/2012 12:32

hey megemmal 2day is actually day 6! I no its flown quik. Normally i find wen im on other diets it seems like dieting for 3-4 days feels like its been ages. Im loving the fact that im not feeling hungry which im still finding a bit strange as i am used 2 feeling really hungry whilst on a diet.

Hey dont worry bout the metabolic rate. Iv been yoyo dieting for years 2 but for some odd reason my reading was pretty hi. However the doc said it will still take me 12 weeks 2 loose the same amount ur losing (3 stone) which will bring me down 2 9st. i think a stone a month is good.

I also have a sweet tooth I love the vanilla dessert, hot choc and capachino. I havent tried the porridge yet so il w8 4 u 2 tel me wether its nice enuf 2 buy next time.. I tried the strawberry milkshake and it was vile!

Talking about sheeps cheese with mushroom! mmmm my favourite! I had that yesterday-
heres my recipe:

  • weigh portabella mushroom (as it is 4rm ur 200gr a day list)
  • cook for 5 mins on each side
  • Then to 100-120ml of water ( i make it thinker) add ur sachet along with:
2 choped up spring onion tops, some fresh chilli (only a little), paprika, garlic powder (a teaspoon) ginger powder, some thyme, some lemon juice salt and pepper

Blend all together and add ontop of half cookd mushroom and cook for an additional 10 mins + 2 ensure the cheese starts 2 bcum slightly brown. U cud repeat this same recipe but instead of the mushroom make a stuffed green pepper or cauliflour cheese.

I made the pizza a few days ago and it tasted really nice- I suggest u cook the dough 1st then add ur tomato puree and toppings after- I added mushrooms, peppers, spring onion tops and tomatoes. Another thing u could make instead or pizza is the garlic bread where u add garlic powder and fresh corriander 2 the dough mix and bake.

I have my weigh in on monday 30th along with my 1st treatment. Couldnt fit it in this week. So i will let u no how it goes
gud luk with the diet
xx

megemmal · 30/04/2012 09:18

Wow malik thats fab can't wait to see how much you have lost in your first weigh in. thanks for the info and recipes! will defo try them. U seem like you have got your head around it really well and are in a better place....well done you! My first weigh in is after 10 days so I'm hoping it will be good. Sooooo excited to start now.

Can anyone else shed some light on this..... I need to have the rhubarb as I'm more than a little stubborn! ( putting it as politely as I can) In the file it says to make roast rhubarb compote with canderel and a vanilla pod and 2 tablespoons of yoghurt (can this be eaten daily as free veg?) without the yoghurt? gotta have something to help me lol!

Well Im off to the clinic in an hour for my 1st proper appointment and to get my sachets. I intended to have the treatments aswell.... but I havn't started the diet yet so wonder if that would be a waste of £120 ! aaarrrggghh

DaisyLondon · 30/04/2012 15:44

Hi Malik21 - really well done! Sounds like you are creativity with the sachets is really paying off. Can't wait to hear about the WI! Have you managed to get on AZ patient forums yet?

Megemmal - I hope your first appointment went well. I started my diet on the same day as I had my first treatment. I don't think it matters too much. Re rhubarb, as it is on the unlimited list, you can have as much of it as you like. But in terms of the recipe in the blue book, only 2 tbsp of yoghurt are allowed per week so you would only be able to do that combination once a week. However try the stewed rhubarb with your vanilla or even choc dessert, it tastes very nice. Ask the clinic for the Allizone patient forum password as it quite active and you'll find some useful tips and recipes on there. Good luck and l look forward to your updates!

As for me, I am now on day 24. At my last WI on Saturday, I lost another 2 kgs (4.4lbs) which brings me to a nice total of 7.6 kgs which is just over a stone in 3 weeks. I am very pleased and ahead of my target at this stage too :)

Good luck to everyone and look forward to your posts.

megemmal · 30/04/2012 16:19

Wow daisylondon that's truly amazing well done u. All went well today and I'm raring to go.... The hovering bloody hurt tho!

malik21 · 01/05/2012 04:30

HI daisylondon and megemmal - had my weigh in 2day and it was a good 1 - lost 11 1/2 pounds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL really chuffed ! so lost bwt 5kg in my 1st week. The doc said it was very good however my WI next week might b low bcuz i lost quiet a bit this week. I can c a difference! But obviously i want 2 get down 2 9st... so here i come!

I think its bcuz iv been working out also- not too much but just like twice a week (joined bums n tums classes), If im honest i did feel really shatterd and out of breath while training and i was exhausted! I didnt have an extra sachet as i didnt no u could have 6 sachets if ur excersizing.

I have been really experimental with the sachets, and brought the potato pie 2day so would apretiate a recipe 4 that?
Iv brought loads off powder spices, veggies n salads, havent got round gettin the AZ passowrd yet.. keep 4getting :(

TREATMENTS!!!!! - arghh!! i was in agony! the ultrasound felt like sum1 was stabbin pins n needles in me and i felt like ripping the thing of me bcuz i felt extremely itchy and hot in the treated area! I was actually jumping and twitching on some occasions! n the beepin noise dosent help..

Then the hoovering one was even worse! OMG! i tried my best not 2 scream. I think it was on the highest suction so the nurse had 2 bring it down and at some stages the nurse even realised i was in alot of pain so she stoped for a few seconds and kept asking me wether i was ok... my belly, inner thighs, back of legs and arms wre extremely painfull and i realised wre all my fat bits wre they hurt the most. Is thre any way round this? do the treatments hurt less the more u have them? Its been 24hrs since iv had the treatment and im still really tender in the places i had the suction :(

megemmal · 01/05/2012 08:22

Hi Malik that is fantastic news well done inspiring new you could do it! What is ur metabolic rate? I didn't mind the ultrasound but the hoovering ond hurt like holy hell! The therapist turned the machine down when doing my tummy cos that's where it was worst. I've started this am! Tabs no probs! Foul quinton but managed it!!!! The porridge was delicious I luv cinnamon so it was really lovely I added some stewed rhubarb too! I've made a vanilla dessert for am snack an omelette more like scrambled herb eggs! For lunch with salad and choc and pear dessert for pm snack I am teaching til 6 pm today but wasn't gonna delay the start so here we go ......

mrspannie · 01/05/2012 09:07

Malik - Many congratulations on a great weight loss - what a fantastic start - you've already made a great dent in the amount you need to lose. :) You should be thrilled!

And well done on doing exercise too. I definitely think it makes a difference and sets you up with a good habbits to continue after AZ is finished. I do have the sixth sachet when I exercise a lot (if I've really sweated or pushed myself). I was finding that without it my concentration was shot to bits.

The potato pie is one of my favourite sachets. Lots of ways to make it, but my favourite is to do potato pie "burgers":

  • Make the sachet up slightly thicker than what it says on the packet.
  • Add in some finely chopped corriander and the green bits from spring onions, some salt, pepepr, garlic granules and maybe also some chilli powder.
  • Stir well with a fork until it's well mixed. It should be quite dry.
  • Shape the mixture into mini balls / burgers / nuggets with your hands. You might be able to make about 5 balls out of one sachet of mixture.
  • Next, heat up a small amount of oil in a non-stick frying pan (I use about 5 squirts of the 1 cal spray).
  • Fry the burgers about 5 mins on each side until golden brown.
Great served hot or cold.

I often make a double quantities - eating one portion as a hot supper and then taking the second portion with me to work as a cold lunch (to have with the salad). It keeps well in a tupperware in the fridge for about 3 days. (Haven't tried freezing it.)

You can vary the recipe by adding in spinach or other vegetables / shaping in different ways / or really making it spicey.

You might find the Alizonne forum password written on your invoice (if you still have that). It would be great to see you on there.

Sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy the treatments. I have found them uncomfortable from time to time, but never really painful. I actually really enjoy them now. However Disappearing Dawn (in her blog) mentions she didn't like the therapy at first and recommends that you take a pain killer beforehand to help you get through it. It definitely gets easier - and I'm sure you'll really like them by week 5. I also understand that the ultrasound is much less painful if you've had lots of water that day. Perhaps try that out next time?

Megemmal - Really wishing you the very best of luck with it all. Be sure to keep us updated. I eat rhubarb most days for the exact same reason! Wink I make a big batch of stewed rhubarb at the weekends and then freeze it in little tubs (about the size of a cottage cheese container) so I can have one tub per night as my pudding. To make a batch, I chop up 4 or 5 packets of rhubarb and put in a big caserole pot with about 3 tbsps of Splenda sweetner and a tiny amount of water to stop the bottom bits of rhubarb burning. Put on a low heat and leave with the lid on for about 20 mins - or whenever the rhubarb has gone completely soft. When it's cold, split it up into the pots. I don't eat it with yoghurt as it's perfectly lovely on it's own.

Sky28 - good luck too. I had about 6 stones to loose (just under 5 at this point) - I'm sure you'll do great.

Tonisue - To put your mind at rest, I've seen several ladies who are 50+ at the London clinic and I'm sure it would be fine for you to do it. In terms of keeping the weight off, that's up to the individual. At the end of the programme you are well equiped with better habits and you will know your new base metabolic rate. So long as you don't go over that number of calories each day you will keep the weight off. Some people however do go back to their old habbits and obviously the weight piles on again. It's important people don't think of AZ as a quick fix, but as a lifetime change.

I have my WI tomorrow. I hope to have lost 10kg (in six weeks) - but might be slightly under that as some weeks I have low losses (and others I have great ones.)

AGal · 01/05/2012 13:50

Tonisue
There are lots of clients 50-70 - so don't worry about age. Our skin is probably less elastic than 20 or 30 years ago - so we may have less good results. I'm pleased with they way my skin is retracting after loosing over 5 1/2 stones. the least good results at the mo are on my upper arms - however I'd rather have loose upper arms and be wearing size 18 jeans than plumped up full upper arms and size 26/28!

Malik and Megammal - treatments shouldn't hurt - though there will always be the hum in the ars of teh ultrasound. Make sure you are well hydrated - ie don't hold back on drinking water just cos you've got a weigh in. If you do, you loose the full effect of drinking your water one day in seven. being hydrated helps with the ultrasound - and they should add extra gel if you need it. Give your therapist feed back on the hoovering and they'll adjust the levels. I actually ask for strong sometimes now! And I actually started enjoying it after 3 or 4 weeks.

And congratulations Malik on your losses. Do come over to the Alizonne forum and share them with everyone. There are also more recipes and other news.

Worral: I had a small hand held - and it takes forever to use - so I do recommend finding a local therapist - there are various brand names for non invasive ultrasound and you can combine it with endermologie aka in Alizonne as hoovering. I travel over 3 1/2 hours to the Alizonne clinic. I really like the GP supervision and the quality of the protein sachets is really good - even if some flavours aren't great. You might want to look at the Kee Diet (looks like they have great flavours) or Save & Slim.

I had a low day yesterday - think I was flooded with hormones being released from my fat. Today is a better day and it's good to be over half way.

I sta
rted at 21st 5.4lb (somehow I had noted the first week weigh in as my start date - so this is a few lbs higher than stated elsewhere) and am now 15st10lb. My goal weight 11st 6lb which will still leave me at over 25 BMI - it's based on the fact that I've been over 25 all my adult life. My Start BMI was 48.3 and I'm now at 35.5 and have lost 26.52% of my starting weight.

What's strage is that it's only in the last stone that I've felt the difference. My thin friends assumed at a couple of stone, I'd feel better. It wasn't so for me. And yet when I carried a suitcase up the stairs yesterday, I felt it was realy heavy. And I've lost twice as much weight as the suitcase. I suppose wearing it as a fat suit meant it was so obvious I was lugging it around.

So my weight loss to date is 5st 9.4lb. I never thought I would see the 15s again - so this is really good. In another stone (a month or so) I'll be into phase 2 - with a protein meal in the evenings - I'm looking forward to chicken, prawns, scallops and will check if i can have crab - as it'll still be in season. I will be still be Alizonning through the summer - phased off in September, I expect.

So my thoughts at this stage are that the shedding weight is the easy bit.

Yes - it is expensive. having failed at lots of other systems I am glad I can afford to make the investment in myself without surgery and that I am changing the way my body works.

I am amazed that as I thought I was destined to be fat forever. It was always wierd as the rest of my life is pretty sussed, and I found it hard as a really capable woman, beloved wife and successful business woman that I felt powerless to get and stay healthy.

Sometimes it seems like it will take forever. But then the days and weeks slide by and already I am over half way through. I am spending quite a lot of time thinking about how I will stay at goal.

Stopping drinking lots of sweet diet drinks is part of the training for us. There's also evidence that it screws up our systems making our bodies expect sugar. Protein 5 times a day, the salads at lunch time and veggies in the evenings and learning to manage portions with the weighing of permitted veg is also part of training.

I was suprised that one therapist said quite a few Alizonners don't continue with the monitoring for the year afterwards. It isn't done until you have stayed at goal for a year. And then we still need to be alert that our way of living 9and eating) must be monitored for the rest of our lives to avoid sliding back into poor habits. Monitoring in the year after shedding is part of the programme and is essential. I will do that, even if it seems a hassle to go for 15 minutes. It is an external monitoring and I need the help to retain and engrain the changes to my way of living.

I am more happy at being into size 18 jeans and have a size 16 dress for a wedding later this month than I am for the actual weight loss. To a certain extent, the numbers aren't really important - as long as I'm getting to a healthy happy weight which I can sustain.

Ali

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megemmal · 01/05/2012 14:49

wow Agal u r doing amazing. This is my first day and I am feeling fine a little tired...but i was excited and woke up an hour earlier than usual. And its a late in work one for me...teaching til 6! Ive enjoyed all of my food so far and am hoping that the sheeps cheese really does taste similar to feta as i love that on mushrooms, and thats tonights tea.

Can you make the omlettes/pizza up the night before for lunches the next day?