ALIZONNE THERAPY?

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Just seen this advertised in National Press.

Has anyone ever tried it?

Is it pricey?

More to the point, Does it really work?

I'm intrigued..... I had never heard of this programme before...

Thanks everyone for sharing my weight loss excitement.

@Megemmal - the doctor will go into details of the plan with you but the crux is: 5 sachets (soups, shakes, desserts, sovouries) every 2-4 hours throughout the day. Certain types of salad and veg (they'll give you the list) allowed in unlimited qtys with your meals, plus 200gms of limited veg such as tomatoes, mushrooms etc. You can use spices and herbs to flavour the foods. I hope this helps. I am at the London clinic but once you get the password for AZ patient forums, I am sure you'l find people who go the Wilmslow clinic.

I would not suggest going on a diet before you go on the programme, just eat normally and have a few treats which you know you'll miss duing your 13 weeks of AZ. My last meal was dimsums and prosecco :)

Good luck with your appointment!

@malik21 - hey, I haven't tried any of the sachets you listed but did get pasta & lemon flan from the swap box to try this week. I'll let you know how they were. I suggest you go with assorted boxes to start with and some of their popular sachets like hot choc and vanilla dessert. When do you start?? Good luck xx

Thanks Daisy.... Ye I think ur right I will eat better for the next 2weeks but if I feel like having a treat I will as I kno the following slog up to my hols will be hard. I'm just praying that the weight will come of. I'm only 5 ft 2" do a size 16 isn't good I'd be pleased with achieving a 12 and delighted with a 10 as I have a wardrobe full of those sizes( currently in a case in the attic!) from what I've read people are achieving 2-3 stone in 12-15 weeks so fingers crossed!

Are there any other fellow alizoners who started their journey at 11stone 11? And if so how much weight lost in what time? X

hi everyone...

Iv bin feeling down for the last few days and thought id just let u no how im feeling...
About 3 4 weeks ago (whilst waiting for my alizonne consultion date) i weighed myself and i was 12 and half stone. I got myself so excited and anxious about the medgem a few days prior to the consultation (mainly thinking about wether alizonne was going to work 4 me r not and also a few other family issues) I have ended up loosing 7lbs / half stone b4 even starting the diet. I no i can loose weight pretty quikly but i fail to maintain it and after 2 3 weeks i end up giving up. I now weigh 12 stone. I have NOT lost the weight intentionally, but due to stress and overthinking things, which i do alot has lead me to loosing my appetite. I feel stressed and very unhappy with the way i look. about a month ago i looked at myself in the mirror whilst weighing 12 and half stone and i had a panic attack, I was ill for 2 weeks, i went docs and they suggested if i was stressing about my weight that bad i should do something about it, That is why i just went ahead with the alizonne.

This happens to me quiet alot. Il loose my appetite for a few days after c'ing how big i look , id get used to not eating and then STARVING MYSELF in order to loose weight, (which i regret hugely)... then when i saw the scales telling me i was a few pounds down, id feel a bit better however wen i come bk 2 reality and try and pretend like im ok with my weight (which im not), id end up stuffing my face and put twice as much back on. I realised i cant keep starving myself in order to loose the weight anymore cuz a month or 2 down the line id end up bigger then what i looked like b4 i started dieting. I think im an emotional eater and im hopeing to break this horrible habit with the help of alizonne. Im hopeing i will be able to loose the weight safely and securely and maintain it. i want this to be the last time i have to diet as i am hopeing to accomplish good eating habbits and dicipline and i want to b able to keep the weight off.

b4 my consultation i was 12st 7lbs, then On my Alizonne weigh in which was a few days ago, i was 12st 2 and i weighed myself yesterday and i am now 12st on the dot! im feeling a bit better 2day and now Im just looking 4ward to the alizonne programme. Im not just looking at it as a ' temporary weight loss programme' which ill be on for a few months but a lifestyle change.

I think i am stressing myself out too much about wether it will work for me and if it does, wether ill b able to keep it off. well i cant say im not happy about the 7lbs that i have lost ( i thought id b 12 n half stone on my AZ weigh in which means i would have had more 2 loose) :) so yh pretty happy about that, which means i have 3st xact 2 loose.

Iv dun this many times b4, i think im an extreme yo-yo dieter and i go 4rm eating absoloutly nothing to evrything i can get hold of. This has to stop now, i want to start the diet ASAP and i think the waitings kind of taking its toll...

already bin for my consultation just got my bloods 2 review which i did 2 days ago (havent had my results yet) just w8n 4 clinic 2 get in touch, which they said they will once there bk. i told them i wanted 2 start ASAP. Sorry about the huge essay and thanks 4 every1s support and help! I will keep u updated and hopefully the next time i post my message, i will b on the diet :)

@megemmal- I am currently 12st which is close to 11st 11. I have been told il loose 3st in bwt 12 weeks which is bwt a stone a month... I should be starting the diet in few days... I think if u want to try and loose w8 b4 uv started the diet then go for it, it will probz give u peace of mind that ur making an effort whilst coming close to ur consultation. I defo wouldnt recommend pigging out b4 the treatment cuz ull just have to b n the alizonne diet longa and loose those xtra few pounds u put on whilst w8n 2 start the treatment... I dont mean goin OTT and being really strict n urself, i just think watching wot ur eating now will keep u motivated whilst coming up to ur consultation... iv lost 7lbs already and i went 4 my medgem and bloods and i was told i have a gud metabolic rate, so i doubt its gna slow the alizonne programme down if anything it should speed things as u r being carefull bwt wot u eat and u never no in 2 weeks u might loose a few pounds hre n thre:)
I was pretty chuffed wen i lost those few pounds b4 my consultation as i was told i have only 3st to loose and not 3.5 st :)

@daisylondon- hey hun how u bin? how u findin wk 2? do let me no wether the lemon flan and pasta is any gud... Iv sin theres a few gud reviews on the vanilla dessert, hot choc, mushroom & beef n onionn soup and the sheeps cheese, so defo gna go 4 them in my 1st wk i will buy an xtra box cuz i no im fussy n i dnt wana feel like im forcein myself 2 eat sumat da i dnt like. Im gna ring the clinic up 2mrw and ask them wen ima start cuz they never gave me a specific date, they just said nxt week bcuz i said i wanted 2 start ASAP, so ill keep u updated n chat 2 u soon

xx

also might go shopping 2mrw 4 sum kitchen scales, a non stick pan and some mixed spices 4 the food :) ill buy all the veggies, salad and allowed salad dressings when i receive the food - i wana b reallly organised 4 wen i start!

Malik21 ivd been on the exact same journey as u prior to this point. But u kno wot..... We really are gonna do it this time. Time to invest some money and time on us for a change. Believe believe we can do it. Take care and catch up soon xx

WOW! i new this programme is pretty costly but didnt realise it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo expensive. Im currently tight with money and starting to doubt wether its all worth it or not.... every1 keeps goin on bwt how wonderfull the diet is and how much w8 thre loosin but the expense is kinda killin me atm and 2b honest if wre paying this much money then the diet better be bloody gud and it better work ..

The clinic tells u u need 2 pay £389 4 ur 1st week but here is what u really have to pay in ur first week:

doctor consultation: £85
bloods: £95
starter pack: £72
supplement: £80
food box: £18 each x 5 = £90 + an additional box @ £18 (just incase, n 1st week) which = £108
combined treatments= £120

ALL IN ALL WEEK 1 COSTS £560 WOW!

then after that you have to pay the below figures weekly to stay n the diet:

combined weekly treatment= £120
Alizonne nutrition (food) = £90

total= £210 a week + maybe and additional £30 (approx) for supplements)

!!! NOT FORGETTING YOU HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL £95 A MONTH FOR BLOOD TESTS !!!

PLUS THE TIME GIVIN TO REACH UR WEIGHT DOES NOT INCLUDE PHASEING OFF! THIS MEANS U WILL HAVE TO PAY MORE!!!
I dont know how phaseing off works in terms of how many sachets u have to have of ther food and wether u continue with the treatments, i have not asked the clinic yet but will be doing so soon. I doubt it makes much of a difference to the price u have to pay weekly (around £210)
The doc said ill b on all the rest of the phases i.e - 2, 3, 4, 5 etc.. for around a week each.

When i asked the doc could u tell me a quote of how much u think im looking on spending- he worked out few figures and said probably around £2500, which is far 4rm what it looks like im gna spend on the alizonne treatment. i worked out that i will spend about £4100 whilst on the alizonne diet.

PLUS U ALSO HAVE TO BUY WEEKLY VEGGIES AND SALADS!
That means im paying £1370 per stone (to loose), that sounds insane, is this really worth it?

I go in 2mrw 2 start the diet and collect my food. I will kepp u updated

Malik,

You are right. This diet is expensive. But on the flip side, it's the only diet I know that is very effective, works quickly, and doesn't leave you with bags of loose skin afterwards. Plus it is medically supervised.

Most of the costs are upfront and it does settle down after that.

A couple of corrections to your post last night:

1. The blood tests that you have monthly are £35. (You don't need to fast before them - and they're not as all encompassing as the first test.). The final blood test at the end of the diet is the full "fasting" one again at £97, but it is optional.

1. On phase 2, you only need 4 boxes of sachets per week. So total cost per week on phase 2 is £194.

1. On phases 3 to 8 you gradually require fewer boxes of sachets each week and I believe you also phase off the therapy (unless you want to continue for cosmetic reasons - I believe it depends how long you've been doing the diet). Also, as you reintroduce normal food, you no longer need the supplements. So the last 6 weeks are relatively cheap.

1. You would have been buying your weekly veggies and salads anyway - and probably a whole lot more besides. (Think how much you are saving on the various treats you might have bought yourself if you weren't on Alizonne e.g. coffees, cokes, wine, dinners out, take-aways, etc. I know that before starting this diet I could easily have spent £10 a day on buying my breakfast and lunch at work alone!)

Personally, I have a lot of weight to lose and have struggled for 25 years to lose it through all the standard diets and slimming clubs. I was considering a gastric bypass / balloon, which would be much more expensive and less good for my overall health. So for me, I definitely think this is worth it.

Finally (though I wouldn't tell the clinic this) the expense helps me to stay 100% focussed and on track. Cheating on this diet really is expensive!

I hope that helps clarify a little.

Can i ask a question? What happens when you end the 'therapy'? How wil you maintain the weight loss?

Hi MagsAloof,

Welcome. I'm hoping someone who has completed the diet might jump in here, but in case they don't here's my understanding of how it works.

1. All the way through the diet, you are being taught some golden rules for after Alizonne, including: the need to be organised, eating little but often, eating healthier foods, watching / weighing portion sizes, staying in control, drinking lots of water, limiting carbohydrates, etc.

1. The last 6 weeks or so of the diet are not so much about losing weight, but more about reintroducing normal foods (one food group at a time) - but still maintaining those golden rules, etc. So, they're a good education and set you up with good habbits.

1. At the end of the diet, you are given your new base metabolic rate. This is the number of calories that you can now consume daily. If you stick to that number, you wont put on weight. People often use aps such as My Fitness Pal to track their calorie consumption daily after Alizonne.

1. I understand that people who finish the programme are also given a book containing foods / calories / guides / meal planners (but I haven't seen it myself) to help people stay on track.

1. After you finish, you are strongly encouraged to return to the clinic once a month (for a whole year) for a weigh in and to meet with your doctor. This is to encourage people to watch what they're eating after they're cut loose from weekly supervision.

My understanding is that people who stop the programme after the weight has come off, but without phasing off properly or without understanding their new base metabolic rate and who fail to go back monthly are MUCH more likely to put the weight back on.

In reality, the losing weight stages (phases 1 and 2) is the easy bit, because you get weekly feedback on how you're doing and a mini "high" as you see the weight fall off. After that, it's about personal discipline. Those who go back to their old ways will end up their old shape and weight again. Those who learn from their experience will keep it off. If you are an emotional eater, it might be worth getting hypnotherapy or seeing a counsellor to deal with this before you are on your own again.

As I said, I am only just 3.5 weeks into this, so I'm not an expert. But I have seen 4 friends finish this programme. 3 of them have kept it off for over a year. 1 of them hasn't. (The one who hasn't stoped after phase 2 and didn't return to the clinic since then. But they still think the diet is worth it and would consider doing it again.)

OMG! I didn't realise it was that expensive!!!!!! I knew about the consultation fee and blood tests and heard about the £210 per week but I thought that that included all food supplements and treatments! Not sure I can afford it now :( Also I didn't realise the phasing off took so long! I go on holiday for 2 weeks after 13 weeks on Alizone but maybe I will be on Phase 2 then and can take sachets with me and have fish and salad/ veggies for my evening meal. ( Is that what you have in Phase 2?) I can't find any info on what you eat in phase 2.......someone please help!!!!

Think the only extra after the first week is bloods £35 every month, and the quinton £15 every 2/3 weeks. The other supplements you get loads of and are pretty cheap.

I'm finding that it's not costing as much as I thought as my grocery bills are much less, and I'm saving a fair bit on lunches at work, not to mention drinks and eating out.

And like others point out, it's harder to contemplate cheating at this price!

hey guys- i didnt mean to put any1 of the treatment, im just saying the truth its pretty expensive. I start 2mrw, therefore i havent even started the diet and iv aldready spent £560 on week1 (paid 4 treatment 4 week1 in advance).
Maybe it does work and does stay off, i cant say bcuz i havent even started it yet. Im hopeing it does bcuz im spending all this money.

hey pannie thanks 4 da corrections. Didnt no blood tests every month r £35, which is gud news, and few other things that get cheaper as i get through the phases.

I believe u r right wen u say the amount of money spent on junk food like cakes, crisps, chocolates, takeaways AND those expensive dinners in fancy restaurant (well 4 me anyway). I admit i spend stupids amounts of money n food which is no good 4 me. I think u probably dnt realise that ur spending that much bcuz ur not paying for it all weekly. And for me, wen i realised it was going 2 b so costly i kinda freaked out.

For me.. i no its bad but i cant remember the last time i went out and brought veggies and salads! so i woudnt have spent any money n them as i think i just eat unhealthy fullstop! i was living of stuff like 2-3 takeaways a day. Abig bag of goodies i.e- choc, crisps, sweets which is the reason y i have ballooned 2 12stone. I feel very hungry late at night which urges me to eat loads b4 i go 2 sleep and at 1 point (disgusts me) i used 2 wake up in the night round 3 4 am with a rumbling belly and run dounstairs 2 raid the fridge and kitchen cupboards.

Since knowing i was going to start alizonne.. i made a few changes, iv bin watching what i eat and not allowed myself to raid the fridge in the night. i have lost half stone already just by doing that.

megemmal-on phase 2 u can replace one alizonne meal by natural protien from food such as meat, fish and eggs. This means u r able to have at least 1 meal with real food like grilled fish or meat. I have just been reading through the alizonne binder... and Hope that helps x

i start 2mrw. lost my alizonne DVD which i was excited 2 watch n how 2 mke the foods! so really pissed of about that But im gna ask the clinic 4 another 1.
i will let u no how i get on as i have all my foods 4 week1

chat 2 u soon guys
xx

HI I FINK I NEED SUM HELP HERE! I was given a pack of the chicken nugget sample to take home and try. I added 50ml water to the pack and followed all the other instructions. The smell of then wre of putting already, taste of medicine mixed wid artifical food smell. Then when i tried them i felt almost sick, i was litterally heaving. Couldnt beleive how bad they tasted. plz dnt tel me all the rest of the food tastes n smells like this bcuz im startin 2 doubt wether ill b able to go ahean wid the alizonne now bcuz from what i have tasted im pretty mortified!

4 ma 1st week i went 4 vanilla desert, mushroom soup, feta cheese, orange n grapefruit drink n 1 extra box of fine herbs omlette

Daisylondon u said the chicken nuggets wre 1 of ur favourties. :l
n i couldnt beleive how bad they tasted im very very very nervous now

Oh dear! Sorry to hear it didn't go well with your first sachet. You should prepare yourself that this isn't going to taste like the real food that you are used to, apart from the salad and veg of course.
I had chicken nuggets tonight for my dinner and it came out really well. Here's my recipe for them, I have tweaked a bit from what's in the folder. I believe it is necessary to get creative with the sachets but then that's easy for me to do as I enjoy cooking and trying different recipes. I hope you like your sachets. I haven't tried mushroom soup or herb omlette so can't comment. Vanilla is fine, you can have it as a drink with a spoon of coffee.

Re chicken nuggets: firstly, I use a little more water than suggested by AZ. I use 85ml water, mix it up with the electronic blender. Add a pinch of salt, garlic powder, red chilli flakes, finely diced spring onion greens, finely chopped fresh coriander and 50 gms of grated courgette. I then stir that all in with a spoon (not the blender). Pour mixture into a hot non stick pan with 1/2 tbsp olive oil in shape of 3 - 4 small patties, and fry for 10 mins on low heat so that oil gets soaked and patties are crisp. Then flip the patties and cook for 10 minutes on the other side. I like it quite dry and crisp so sometimes cook it for even longer. Really nice served with a green salad. Hope you have success with the recipe but people's tastes vary so you might not like it at all!

Try getting a box of hot choc as that is everyone's favourite so chances of you liking it will be higher.

Good luck and let me know how the first day goes! Come on to the Alizonne patient forums where all of us post more frequently.

x

Malik

Different folk have different tastes. So having a mix of sachets really helps so you can find the ones you like or at least can handle. I know one person who did the whole thing on hot chocolate! That would drive me mad.

Get the password for the forum and read past posts re new starters, sachets and organisation.

For me, Alizonne has been an answer to my prayers. I can actually do it. There are sachets/recipes I dislike (indeed I hated the tomatoe soup) and nothing I would have if I wasn't on a programme to shed loads of weight. If I have a prob, then I tell myself to get on with it, and look at the 60+ reasons why I started this and the results I want.

I also now believe I am developing the habits that will help me keep at goal. In fact the real work starts then - establishing the new ways of life and eating that will support our new fitter bodies.

I hope you can sort your mind and find a way to enjoy the transformation Alizonne can help you make.

Ali

HI ALI and DAISLONDON thanks 4 ur support, thanks 4 the recipe daisy london. i think the reason y they tasted so disgusting (litterally unbearable) is bcuz i did not use a blender i just mashed with hands, as i didnt have a blender and also i ddint season. I was just tasting what the samples r like. And ooh yhhh 4got i did get the hot choc iswell! Ali i hope i find sumting i like! I started doubting after tasting the nuggets wether id bable 2 go ahead with it r not, and i started finkin 2 myself am i gona b able 2 eat sumat like that 5 times a day 4 3 months! i started stressin out big time!
iv got sum bad news!
I was meant 2 start alizonne on the 17 of this month, however i had 3 fillings put it the same day and my teeth r extremely sensitive i cant even drink water. Im strugling 2 eat anything, im in that much pain ( trust something 2 go wrong wen it cumz 2 me) iv had bad luk since 4eva! i thwt id be ok since having the filings in but i havent eaten properly 4 2 days bcuz of my tooth pain as i am unable 2 eat or drink And this is making me think wether this will effect my alizonne diet or not. Wen i put anything 2 my mouth it just feels like iv put ice cubes n ma teeth, extremely sensitive!

Im really upset now bcuz iv got all my food n everything n i am unable 2 start the programme bcuz of this!
Thanx 4 ur support im starting 2 think there myt b some hope of loosing weight n i hope it is bcuz of alizonne!

Stick wiv it u will get there. My app is now one week away..I can't wait x

Well done to all you Alizonners!

I wish I could join you but my nearest clinic is hours away.

I live in hope that one will open soon in my neck of the woods.

Meanwhile, I will find some shakes to start with and thought about buying this:

www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B006G815ZO/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

Is this what is used in the treatment?

I know that a home machine is never going to be as good as a salon machine but it may be the only option for me. I have no idea but would welcome some comments.

Further research found this:

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001IH61YS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p364_d0_g364_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0N5KCZZXRV09B3AR3RW4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

Anyone got one?

hey worrals had a look at your attatched links. Its a shame that u r so far away 4rm an AZ clinic. I cant really say wether they r the ones the AZ clinic use, however there description is very similar. I wouldnt really advise u 2 buy a home equipent as the results wont be very effective. However i was thinking u might b able 2 find a clinic near u that do ultrasonic treatment and this can be very effective for weight loss but i think it has 2 b combined with a strict protein diet. Im not sure where about u live? i no bodytite is one thats talked about alot and it is also FDA approved. And also liposonix which has had good reveiws. I was thinking about having ultrasound treatment b4 i found out about alizonne or if u cant find a clinic that provides these in ur area. Found a clinic that does do ultrasonic treatments near u. Hope that helps

I start my diet 2day.. still got 3 very sensitive teeth due to fillings HOWEVER i was just feeling unpatient and decided 2 start it 2day. i will let u no later on how i found my 1st day

xxx

** sorry NOT bodytite this is a form of surgery- what i meant is liposonix which is a ultrasonic body contouring weight loss treatment

Hi Malik,

Thanks for your thoughts on ultrasonic treatment. You are probably right about home machines. I just hoped one of them might be a second best bet until Alizonne come to town!

I will have a search for a salon that does the ultrasound and maybe go for that.

Good luck with the diet. Keep posting results.

Hi Malik,

I looked at the links you gave me. You are right about Bodytite. As soon as I saw blood mentioned I was out of the site! LOL.

The Liposonix site was more interesting. The not so good news is that it is only used for the stomach and 'love-handles'. I need more of an all over treatment.

I think I will keep saving for Alizonne and hope a clinic moves closer to me.

I plan to try and convince a friend to join me and see if we could alternate the three hour return journey to half the cost and stress. I can't see me doing this journey alone week after week.

I am back to thinking about the home machine idea but not as enthusiastic as I was this morning.

hey guys started my first day of alizonne 2day, was slightly nervous bout starting..
In the morning i first took all my tablets and the doc said i cud put the quinton into my meals/ sachets n i wudnt b able 2 taste the difference. I had the vanilla desert 4 breki which was nice but i felt like i was drinking it 4 ages and started feeling a bit sik after a bit as i am not used 2 having breakfast. I felt pretty much full just after the 1 sachet in the morning . Then my next meal was the orange and grapefruit drink. I NEARLY THREW UP! I was heaving on the drink whilst trying 2 down it! it wasnt goin well and after holdin the drink 4 half hour...i just held my nose and with a little encouragement 4rm my brother i noked it back like a medicine. YUK!

Then 4 my next meal i felt like sumat nice n big. So i made the fine herbs omlette with mushrooms, tomatoes (4rm 200g daily allowance), spring onion tops and green peppers. I added bit of lemon juice sum dried tyme, garlic powder, paprika, chilli flakes, salt, pepper and corriander. whilst making it, it got completely stuk 2 the pan so i turned it into a scrambled egg. I ate it with cucumber and lettece drizzled with lemon juice n bit of vinegar. It was palatable but still didnt really like the taste of it.

Then i had the hot chocolate which was my 4th meal, But also my last. I no i was told 2 have 5 sachets a day, But by the time i had my 4th i was feeling sick and it was late and i was feeling tired. By this time i started to feel the headaches so i noked back a paracetamol n fell asleep.

Will it effect my diet bcuz i missed my last meal? I can honestly say i wasnt hungry the slightest n the last thing that was n my mind was food! i sat there eating my veggie omlette gone wrong whilst my brother sat in the same roomm as me stuffin his face with a chicken breast fillet burger meal with chips! was kind of jelus when i cud smell the food as he was kinda sitin next 2 me but tried stayin possitive n jus ignored wot he was eating n tried feeling happy about wot i was going 2 eat.

I think im feeling slightly down on the 1st day of my diet. I think 1 of the reasons is bcuz i thwt i wud b ok with the food but atm im not liking the taste of most of the food. Also a very bad habit! i keep weighing myself and after c'in im not shiftin nothing im getting put of, i no its just my first day but i keep thinking 2myself wether its gona work r not. so i need 2 stop doing that and i need 2 think positive!

Morning Malik,

Having not done the diet (yet!) I am the last person to try to give advice but I am sure that one or two of the diet veterans will be along to give you the benefit of their experience.

I just wanted to give a little support. From reading through the whole thread, it does seem that not every sachet is liked by everyone and it is a question of finding the ones that you like.

I hope today is a better one for you - with some different meals - and that the weigh-in spurs you on.

Good luck.